Other than Chudder's thread, I hadn't seen much about these anywhere. They've been sitting at the warehouse at SBF for quite some time, and they sent me some so we could see what they're about. I honestly didn't expect much, since there was hardly any talks on them at all and you see nobody using them anywhere. All things considered, I can't believe more people weren't talking about these. Even with the limited number of swings we put on these I was impressed. They weren't blow you away good just yet, but I could game either one and not feel at a disadvantage after a couple rounds of BP with some hard stuff to wake them up. SBF is running a big sale on these on June 22nd, 2 for $99 shipped! Hard to beat for that money. Perfect bat for a team starting out and just needing a bat to use, or someone who wants a BP bat that could turn gamer. Just know it'll take some work to get going.