Does anyone other than worth make GSL balls?

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  1. spartyfaith

    spartyfaith Addicted to Softballfans

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    Never been a fan of hot dots. We are using GSL 52 300?
     
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    The syco cover ones aren't bad. Pro TAC sucks. I believe they have a contract with with like wsl but I'm not 100% sure on that.
     
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    Thanks appreciate your response.
    From what I notice the cover on the protac rips when you look at them funny
     
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    they feel the same. what's is the performance difference between syco and procomp?
     
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    Nothing. Same exact thing. Just different names. Both are composite covers.
     
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    Doesn't matter when I'm swinging my Easton Hammer
     
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    Damn we hit gold dot extremes classic m’s
     
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  9. DoinWorkSoftball

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    not all GSL or USSSA Hotdots are 52/300 infact most Hotdots in Ohio and MI are 40/325 the same as the Extreme Gold dots just the different cover. you need to read the letters on the ball UHC12SY (UHC12SYG for GSL) are 40/325 if they are UHC12CY (UHC12CYG for GSL) then they are 52/300
     
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    They are not hot dots if they're 40/325.
     
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    So we lasted only a season of GSL. Can't wait to see what the director pushes us to next.
    Those 40 325 balls were absolute rocks in Michigan during the fall.
     
  12. DoinWorkSoftball

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    I'm sorry I guess as a director for GSL I dont know what I am talking about. I guess the 45 min chat with Worth never happend. If i didnt give you the different codes for the ball to look them up yourself and see what the ball was.... here i'll do it for you

    uhd12sy is a 40/325 yes this is a USSSA ball only differance is GSL would be uhd12syg the g is for GSL...


    uhd12cy is a 52/300


    go ahead click the links and check it out for your self... this is why when i run tournaments that are hot dot only I have to say which balls are aloud.... oh yea the Extremes they are 40/325 also :) its the same ball just a different cover.
     
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    First, don't link to a competitor's sure here. Second, don't think we don't see where you changed the model number.

    Hey, look at that, the balls you reference are all 52/275 classic pluses and not classic ms. I'm shocked.
     
  14. Jorge Valderama

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    hot dot is a 52 cor ball every ****ing time. Lulz.
     
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    I assume what you think I said is that there are no gsl hot dots, which is not what I said. I have owned them. I was one of the first people to buy them in this area to try and keep our balls in the yard because the classic m is a completely stupid ball.
     
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    I guess he's a director for other reasons.
     
  17. Jorge Valderama

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    his google must be broke too
     
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    In his defense, the competitor he linked has it wrong on their site. I mean, nobody else does, but that one retailer does so they probably are more accurate than worth and utrip about their own balls.
     
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    my info was not from google it was from talking with worth.. and a hotdot is not always a 52/275 bc hot dots are not even 52/275 they are 52/300. You can say what you want but as a company I would like to know what I am selling. Call Worth and ask they will tell you everything that I have just said because I have already talked with them. And I have never changed any code. I am reading them strait from the ball.. inless you are talking about adding the G on the end which only means GSL stamp not USSSA stamp.... does not change the ball.
     
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    Call Worth.. they are where my Info is from. not from the other website. good try though. maybe your site is wrong.
     
  21. Jorge Valderama

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    Do you want to bet on that? $500? Like I will bet you $500 right ****ing now that there are 52 275 hots dots on the market. 52 300 is simpl what assoc uses it. All hot dots are 52 cor, like I said. Make the bet hoss.
     
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    The back to back posts above where you changed the model number from uhc12sy to uhd12sy are inches above this if you want to reread them .
     
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    I also don't want to talk to a worth sales associate. I just read the definition of a classic plus ball on utrips website, their rule book, etc. It takes the human error portion down a lot.
     
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    i see what you are saying and that was just a mistake of the wrong key being hit... there is no ball that is UHC12sy sorry for the typo. I am waiting on the Email from Worth so I can screen shot it for everyone. I went ahead and called them again to make light of this issue with what the balls are.
     
  25. Jorge Valderama

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    Again, do you want to be $500 right now I can buy some hot dots that are 52 275?
     
  26. Jorge Valderama

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    If I call worth, and I don't tell them Im a GSL rep, they will offer my everything they have FYI....clearly you don't understand why they told you that
     
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    You should read utrips new designs if the different types of balls for 2017. It's almost comical how they have temperature guidelines for the classic plus, to least effected by temp of all three balls, but no such thing for the other two. They can't match the plus obviously, but can you imagine how bad the m would be if it couldn't exceed 400 compression at 40 degrees? The plus is listed as 52 Cor and no more than 375 compression and no less than 225 compression from 40 degrees to 100 degrees
     
  28. Jorge Valderama

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    can you link me to that by chance?
     
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    http://web.usssa.com/usssa/usssa-general/USSSA_SPRB_17.pdf

    12” Classic Plus Ball:
    i.
    shall have an optic yellow cover
    ii.
    shall have “USSSA Classic Plus “ in 1/8” letters and the
    USSSA logo with a 7/8” diameter
    iii.
    shall have lettering and logo in red and the stitching shall be
    blue and logo shall be applied to be indelible.
    iv.
    shall have a COR up to .52 or less under the ASTM test used
    under the USSSA Softball License Agreement and
    v.
    shall have a compression between 375 and 225 pounds in
    weather between 40 degrees and 100 degrees under the ASTM
    test used under the USSSA Softball Ball License Agreement.

    the Board at sprules@usssa.com and to the appropriate State Director, each
    of which may, in their discretion, overrule any USSSA league rule changes.
    Sec. 3 A
    .

    :
    The completed 12” ball shall have a circumference of
    12” +/- 1/8” and weigh 6.4 ounces +/- 0.2 oz. The seam shall have not less
    than 88 stitches in each cover, or 88 simulated stitches in molded cover balls.
    The completed 11” ball shall be 11” +/- 1/8” in circumference and weigh 5.85
    ounces +/- 0.2 ounces and shall otherwise be proportional to the 12” ball.
    2. Name, Logo, COR, and Compression 12” Balls
    a.
    There shall be no COR or compression information written on the
    ball, marketing materials or packaging. Manufacturers may have their
    name and logo in any color.
    b. 12” Classic M Ball:
    i.
    shall have an optic yellow cover
    ii.
    shall have “USSSA CLASSIC M” in 1/8” letters and the
    USSSA logo with a 1-1/8” diameter;
    iii.
    shall have lettering and logo in blue color and such lettering
    and logo shall be applied to be indelible;
    iv.
    shall have a COR of 40 or less under the ASTM test used under
    the USSSA Softball Ball License Agreement and
    v.
    shall have a compression of not more than 325 pounds under
    the ASTM test used under the USSSA Softball Ball License
    Agreement.
     
  30. Jorge Valderama

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    thanks and lols
     

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