Ejection Timing Question

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  1. the_lpn

    the_lpn New Member

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    Hi,

    I was playing in a game last night where the following occurred (we are in USSSA)

    2 Outs, runner on 2nd base.

    Solid base hit to the outfield.

    Runner going from 2nd base to home slips on 3rd base, crashes to the ground, drops an expletive, gets up, and scores. Batter stops at 1st base.

    Between the dropping of the expletive and scoring, the umpire says the runner is ejected for language and this results in the 3rd out, ending the inning, no run scores.

    I didn't find anything in the rule book on WHEN ejections should happen; I do know they are evaluated after the play in baseball (i.e. you can hit a home run, doing something worthy of ejection, but not get ejected until after you touch home). Is there any rule specifically on this in USSSA?

    We ended up losing by one, but it was a good game so we're not going to protest or anything, just got me curious.
     
  2. Country469

    Country469 Well-Known Member

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    He should have waited until the play was dead to eject the dude.
     
  3. DeputyUICHousto

    DeputyUICHousto Addicted to Softballfans

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    Speaking USA, an ejection is not an out. My thinking is this run should have counted and then the player ejected. But, I'm not familiar with USSSA Rules or your local rules.
     
  4. irishmafia

    irishmafia Addicted to Softballfans

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    What a candy ass league in which you play!
     
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    the_lpn New Member

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    Thanks Country469 and DeputyUICHousto! My curiousity has been sated.

    Irishmafia, it is almost unbearably, ridiculously candy ass'd.
     
  6. Hiltz

    Hiltz Oozing with... something.

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    I've seen guys get ejected for swearing, but it's usually directed at someone and/or a loooong string of expletives following a warning.

    Church league by any chance?
     
  7. irishmafia

    irishmafia Addicted to Softballfans

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    Since 1966 I have ejected just one person for perceived profanity and only because of the league rule. It was baseball and in 1966. IMO, profanity doesn't exist, a word has no power other than what you afford it. If you are offended by anything, it is because you chose to be.
     
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    he just got tossed from this thread for saying the y word tho, cya
     
  9. Stretch19

    Stretch19 Grow up

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    damn i knew your ass was old, but umpiring in 1966 old? sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh
     
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    irishmafia Addicted to Softballfans

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    It was baseball and I was a teenager
     
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    EAJuggalo Addicted to Softballfans

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    By the book one of two things should have happened. Either the umpire declares the ball dead, ejects the player and you would be able to put a sub in as a runner at 3B. Or he waits until the play is over, the run counts and then the player is ejected. In tournament play had the umpire taken the first option and you didn't have a legal sub to put in, the runner would then be out for the 3rd out of the inning. Most leagues I have worked, a courtesy runner would be put in.

    The direction I have gotten at every level of USSSA from one day carney tourneys to Worlds has been. If you drop an F bomb that we think can be heard outside the fence you're gone.
     
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    That's pretty weak
     

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