my 2018 Legit USA “Border Battle” XL ASA experience...

Discussion in 'Worth' started by chile, Aug 12, 2018.

  1. chile

    chile woo.

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    put 150 off the tee and I can say this with 100% scientific accuracy, only 22 hits were off bp rockets...the other 128 were a mix of bp 52+, Dudley 52/300s and SXSPINR52s on it this morning...

    1st few rounds were "meh, it's the same same..." last couple, were "okay, this is more like it."

    to me, the barrel feels very "tight" at first...I don't feel like it loosened up so much as I just adjusted to the feel (versus hitting the nitrous). idk (and not that it matters) but worth/miken and easton inner barrel bats feel/sound much different than demarini, monsta, anarchy to me...the 18 worths sound "tinny" to me...and when I hit the harder stuff with the worths, I always feel like something broke versus the nice crack I get with the nitrous...hitting the 52s just feel better when it comes to the 18 line for me...hitting the harder stuff (44/375s), while the performance is still really good, just feels off for me...and to me, it seemed the 52s were getting better distance than the rockets...and here is where the "non-sciency, fuzzy math" comes into play...I was simply hitting to pull the ball down the line where there's a light tower at about 265 with a tree roughly 20ft past it...just about every (not like it was 118 out of 128 but it was noticeable) 52 went past the tree...i'll have to re-visit that "theory" later, I guess.

    anyhoo, I think I prefer the 17 BB but have zero problems with the 18...crisp barrel with excellent performance. idk what the durability will be like since it will probably only get one more round of bp with 52s when I get a chance and that'll probably top the bp hits out at 200ish...after that, game only with 44/375s (so maybe 10-15 hits a week?) and here's where the worth beats the anarchy for me, the handle thickness with the grip is more what i'm used to...and yeah, you can say "just use a thicker grip, dumbass" but anything thicker than 1.1mm starts to feel very mushy to me...the 1.8s feel like someone taped a pillow to the handle IMO...neither here nor there, I guess but that's my $0.02 on that.

    take this with a grain of salt and don't think I believe you'll feel the same about it...again, paying less than $230 for a returnable bat versus one that costs more and is not returnable is a no brainer...
     
  2. Normy

    Normy Well-Known Member

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    Nice unbiased review as usual Chile. I've got about the same amount of hits on my 17 BB. About to toss it in the bag for us beer league heroes.
     
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  3. chile

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    I should probably add that I like hitting the bb much more than the balanced EST...guess I do have an EL preference after all :/...the balanced EST is not bad by any stretch...just not my cup o' tea versus the XL/XXL ESTs/BB
     
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    Oh, and just use some thicker tape dumbass :D
     
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  5. chile

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    :oops:o_O
     
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    Just messin' with ya man. Joker's been AWOL lately...
     
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  7. BOLTMAN21

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    Performance wise with 52's, which would you say is better for you between the Nitrous and 18 B.B. at the same amount of hits? Distance, exit speed.
     
  8. chile

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    At this point, from how the nitrous was at 150ish, I'd say it's even...I could game either and be happy...I prefer the 17 BB over the 18, tho...
     
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    Idk how the bb will progress but I can say for certain that my 27oz nitrous with 500ish hits on it does outperform the bb, at this point, with the 52s...
     
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    96packers OG Titletown

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    so is it


    PST like?
     
  11. chile

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    One word. No.
     
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    Is it better than the Carbon Omega 2?
     
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    I'm waiting on the rumored Anarchy LC bat to be released so I can get one. All leagues around here are LC balls. Only hard balls are at tournaments.
     
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  14. chile

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    I wish our league switched to LC...got the email for my bb fallout today :/... Was hoping it was for my adversities :/
     
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    Out of the wrapper, I'd say yes... But I did really like the carbon.. Much more than the Vizion
     
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    96packers OG Titletown

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    Nothing is... ;)
     
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  17. Jusrah99

    Jusrah99 Outstanding Bad Mudasuka!

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    I’m gonna swing both BB’s tomorrow!
     
  18. chile

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    game swing update...this thing swings beautifully. nitrous replacement? not quite...but good enough ;)
     
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  19. Batalot

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    OK which is the BB Legit.. not sure what BB stands for.
     
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    OK.. must be the Border Battle.
     
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    Does it swing better than the 17 model in your humble opinion?
     
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    hitless45 Addicted to Softballfans

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    Post #8 indicates not, but with more hits on the 18 possibly he changes his mind..lol
     
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    So far I prefer my 18 BB over the 18 balanced EST... performance seems the same, but I like the way the BB swings for me. Had it tested with about 50 hits on it and it was still over 1450 even though passing is >1050 (for comparison, by 18 balanced EST tested at about 1300 with the same # of hits and that also has passing at 1050).... so I can only imagine it will get better, especially with the LC balls, as it breaks in more.
     
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    That is one perk of the 18's. The 1300 pass/fail mark on the 17's kinda scrares me...
     
  25. chile

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    I do like the way this "swings" better...but that's really a subjective opinion. idk...it's a good stick...definitely one to have if you don't already have one of the upper tier asa sticks...not something to sell anything away for, tho
     
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  26. chile

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    put some live bp on it along with a NOW fallout...BB Legit - 1. Fallout - 0 for the first round...two noticeably different weightings. I've already hit the fallout when it first came out so I knew it wouldn't be where the BB is right now but I hit noticeably better with the BB. we'll see after I get a few hundred on the fallout but the BB is about retired from BP now.

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  27. jkwoody22

    jkwoody22 League ball huer

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    The B.B. swings so nice, much better for me and my swing than my 17” long barrel B.B.
     
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  28. stillballin

    stillballin The Veteran

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    you have a 17" legit? lol...jk...
     
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    Tim .. you know your not kidding lol..

    JKW22 sell ur 17 bb legit to this man.. :)
     
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    jkwoody22 League ball huer

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    Haha it’s not the size it’s how you use it:( I can’t sell it, my teammates have fallen in love with the 17’ B.B. so I might as well let them swing it and not my 18’ lol :)
     

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