USSSA Where should an umpire stand

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  1. cbass300

    cbass300 New Member

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    I don't get the opportunity to catch very often, but I learn something new every time I play. I was in a South Texas USSSA tournament, and the home plate umpire calling balls and strikes basically wanted 6 " and square behind the plate. As the catcher, I had to either stand behind him or off to the side. I have watched and played many games over a 17 yr career and have never noticed such a spectacle. Is this normal?
     
  2. NCASAUmp

    NCASAUmp "Honey"

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    Unless it's changed recently, USSSA has the plate umpire stand in front of the catcher. I have no idea why, I don't like it, but... that's their choice.

    NSA Canada does it that way, too.
     
  3. Joker

    Joker Well-Known Member

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    you're not framing pitches or blocking wild pitches. you're catching balls off a bounce and throwing them back to the pitcher. let the ump get the position they want to be able to make calls on balls and strikes
     
  4. EAJuggalo

    EAJuggalo Addicted to Softballfans

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    We are instructed to be wherever we need to be to get the best view of the pitch. Generally we ask the catcher where they are going to set up. If the catcher wants to be right behind the plate, I'm in the slot like a fastpitch ump. More and more guys want to stand 5-6 feet behind the plate or even more, in that case I'm right behind the plate and just off to the side. If you watch Conference those guys are almost always right on top of the plate. At E Worlds last year, Lee Eggers had the plate for the final and you could see him telling the catcher to back up so he could get a better view. Only a couple of times I've asked catcher's to move and each time it was a guy who set up right behind the plate then stood up and backed into me during the pitch. I can't call a strike if I can't see where it came across.
     
  5. NCASAUmp

    NCASAUmp "Honey"

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    I've had similar issues within ASA/USA Softball when Big Bubba decides to crowd my view. I tell him, "catch, you can be there if you want, but you're blocking me out."

    They get the hint pretty quickly.
     
  6. Country469

    Country469 Well-Known Member

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    As a pitcher I want my catcher to gtfo. Never ever ever in a million years do I want a target from you or you catching a pitch before it hits. Gives a much deeper perception that way. As an ump its kills me watching guys squat and chase 20 times a game, for nothing. Why?
     
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    LOL "can't call what I can't see" they do move then
     
  8. NCASAUmp

    NCASAUmp "Honey"

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    Good catchers figure it out fast and are more than happy to move. The others, however...
     
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    legend4130 Addicted to Softballfans

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    I was catching in a ASA tournament out of town. I was that guy that always stands about 3-4 feet behind the plate. The ump was crowding me at the plate the first couple of innings. Next inning out, he tells me that I have to be right on top of the plate, so I move up where he wants me. Sure enough a couple batters later the ball hits the corner of the plate/dirt, and takes a bad hop hits me right in the eye. I was so PISSSED! Told the ump to GTFO with his postioning at the plate after that.
     
  10. Dogue

    Dogue Evil Genius

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    If there's no stealing then I'll stand with my back against the backstop if the ump wants me to. Normal position is about 5' behind the plate to get the one-hop...I might move up and squat if it's a crappy field with soft boxes.
     
  11. legend4130

    legend4130 Addicted to Softballfans

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    I don’t have to worry about anybody after the third batter. 90% of guys playing are pushing 260LB. They tried pushing the bases back to 70ft and all the fat asses cried.
     
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    irishmafia Addicted to Softballfans

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    Tell him the catcher's box (asa/usa) is 8.5 wide and 10 deep from the back edge of the batter's box and you can stand anywhere within that box you choose. If s/he pushes you elsewhere, question him on the location of the box and if you do not get the correct response, protest the game for a rule misinterpretation. There is a reason the box is that big and the umpire should not force someone to stand where s/he is uncomfortable or detrimental to you and your pitcher.
     

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