Yeah the blackout has good exit speed amd i like the fact that the harder i swing with it i feel it. Not to the point where it hurts the hands or anything but i know without seeing the ball that i hit it hard. However it still needs some breaking in which im working on.
Z3k is junk!!!!
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Yeah the blackout has good exit speed amd i like the fact that the harder i swing with it i feel it. Not to the point where it hurts the hands or anything but i know without seeing the ball that i hit it hard. However it still needs some breaking in which im working on.
I have a 27 balanced z3 usssa with about 50 swings on it. 50-60 degree mixed balls. No sound change and not the first stress mark. I'm also the same guy that bought 3 different ri z2's and bust in 10 swings between the 3. lol
I think its just the luck of the bat. Some suck and some are tanks.
I think its just the luck of the bat. Some suck and some are tanks.
Hiltz
Built for comfort
So if you have real umps, the bat's good for 50 swings. If not, it's good for 650 swings. And that's GTG?
fowlball75
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I have both the EL and Balanced Z3K. I've got 530 swings on the balanced and 320 on the EL. So far they are holding up.
I've hit classics , 650's, and ASA balls.
First off the weather here has sucked and it's been too cold to hit Z's. A lot of people are hitting them in cold weather. If it's not warmer than 65 I wouldn't swing it. If you want a tank then get a blackout.
Doesn't matter if you hit them indoors , when you store the bat and cold balls in your car.
I kept up with my swings because I heard a lot about the durability.
I also rotated my bat every time I swung it.
I agree these bats are not as hot as the OG but they are still pretty hot to me.
I've hit classics , 650's, and ASA balls.
First off the weather here has sucked and it's been too cold to hit Z's. A lot of people are hitting them in cold weather. If it's not warmer than 65 I wouldn't swing it. If you want a tank then get a blackout.
Doesn't matter if you hit them indoors , when you store the bat and cold balls in your car.
I kept up with my swings because I heard a lot about the durability.
I also rotated my bat every time I swung it.
I agree these bats are not as hot as the OG but they are still pretty hot to me.
BLACK DEATH
RED DEATH now
So I should just keep my og z2ks then.
I have a good QC balanced 26 and a bad QC 26 el.
The balanced is hot while the el isn't as much. Maybe the el will last longer being its stiffer and hasn't opened up yet.
I have a good QC balanced 26 and a bad QC 26 el.
The balanced is hot while the el isn't as much. Maybe the el will last longer being its stiffer and hasn't opened up yet.
bimmerpilot
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So much for 600 cuts with a paint crack...
Sugar
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Somebody else said he had one with a crack like yours that he put 600 more swings on before it broke. I knew yours wasn't going to hold up, though.
These bats are made to hit the 40/325 Classic M. Not 44/375, 44/400, 44/575. They are to be used in games directly out of the wrapper. Just like the ASA is to be used with 52/300 balls. What balls were you hitting in bp?
I had one with 50-75 swings on it.i traded it, not because I didn't like it but because I wanted another L2 and needed some $$$.
I had one with 50-75 swings on it.i traded it, not because I didn't like it but because I wanted another L2 and needed some $$$.
Yatzeelogoz
Stop it Stoopit
I agree the EL's seem to be breaking but I have a balanced and its pretty shat hot, to say they are junk would be wrong havent seen any issues with the bal model, just my .02
rhound50
Rec Coed Superstar
I am much less surprised by the bat broken in 70 swings, I'm more and more surprised that people act surprised. These bats have a design or manufacturing issue and it seems to be most prevalent with the USSSA EL bats. People get all pissed off yet people keep buying these things, if you are gonna get pissy about a bat breaking quickly why are you still buying a LS with all the issues they have had in the last 3 years. This is a much a failure by buyers to know what they are getting as it is LS making a low quality product. Double fail
LetsgetCrazy
Smack Talkin' Pitcher
What I've learned, don't swing them when it's under 70° & I keep my BP balls indoors too. Also, use wood or metal for BP, why destroy composite bats? These are hot out of the wrapper and they impressed me last fall, when we got a few to swing.
Waggs
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Pretty much nailed it here. I wouldnt swings Z's if they were free.
Pdpwally
Coach
i've owned both and the z3 poops on that bat. sorry to poop on ur plug
Yatzeelogoz
Stop it Stoopit
^^^^^^ this!!!!!
I'm sorry but I disagree. We keep our bucket of bp balls indoors and they are a mix of a Classic M, 44/375, 44/575, 44/400 and 44/525. When I bp'd my z3000 I asked for all Classic M's to be pitched while I was bping. The ones we had were Dudley ZN and Tattoos. After putting 50-75 hits on the bat, I brought it home, cleaned it up and there wasn't a sign of any wear on the bat.
