Demarini Composite Question
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015reddog
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What??? Could you be a little more specific, like which bat you are talking about, barrel, handle, stuff like that?
For instance I know that both my Swagger and Larsen .12 have both the 4.ONE Composite and I recently acquired a blue CF5 with the True Flow Composite. The CF5 has a softer feel to it than my One Series bats. I also was trying to find out from the guys that have put swings on bats that had the same composite and possibly feel if they performed the same or different. When I see say one bat uses the 4.ONE composite and another uses the Divergent Composite, I was wondering what the differences are between those composites.
TRaj2327
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There is more to the composite than just simply saying the bat has 4.ONE. If they were all identical then DeMarini basically has made only a couple bats with the ONE composite (4.ONE, S.ONE) in the past few years, which we know is not the case. The thickness of each layer will differ, there are sometimes other composite materials between layers, total thickness will vary....lots of factors. All of these things will play into break-in time, durability, how hot they are, feel, etc.
Actual differences in composite is proprietary information. We don't really get much information beyond the specs listed on the website.
Actual differences in composite is proprietary information. We don't really get much information beyond the specs listed on the website.
015reddog
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oilslick58
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The OG Stadium has an Aerospace grade composite. This was different than others. I Do not know if the same composite was used for the later Stadiums.
I know this answer from outside of the softball universe and means nothing special.
I know this answer from outside of the softball universe and means nothing special.
Both the Swagger and Larson .12 both feel stiff and the Swagger feels like it has a touch more end load to it. The CF5 feels like it has about the same amount of end load as the Larson .12 but a softer barrel. All three bats still need to be broken in to really see what they have going for them.
bimmerpilot
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The carbon fiber itself does not vary much, I'm sure if researched, there are a select few sources that supply all bat companies. The true variability lies within the cut lengths, layering techniques, and the proprietary composition of resin and other additives.
This is my hypothesis coming from metallic and fibrous medical device manufacturing.
Keep in mind also that with Demarini, overall feel will also be influenced based in which handle/material are mated to which barrel
This is my hypothesis coming from metallic and fibrous medical device manufacturing.
Keep in mind also that with Demarini, overall feel will also be influenced based in which handle/material are mated to which barrel
oilslick58
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The carbon fiber itself does not vary much, I'm sure if researched, there are a select few sources that supply all bat companies. The true variability lies within the cut lengths, layering techniques, and the proprietary composition of resin and other additives.
This is my hypothesis coming from metallic and fibrous medical device manufacturing.
Keep in mind also that with Demarini, overall feel will also be influenced based in which handle/material are mated to which barrel
Do you sell SYBAN'S?
bimmerpilot
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More like drug coated vascular stents from CoCr and new age absorbables from Polylactide...
I'm moving onto carotid stents and endovascular coiling when I grow up
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oilslick58
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More like drug coated vascular stents from CoCr and new age absorbables from Polylactide...
I'm moving onto carotid stents ...
Well how da hell is my wife suppose to ride that?
oh, wait......................
Braveheart23
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My cf3 had baby blue plastic in between the composite layers. It was like trash bag material. Never seen anything like it on any of the bats ive broken.
oilslick58
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My Legend and my RD utrip have the blue layer.
I was in such an emotional down when it happened that I forgot to post a thread about the trashbags..........sigh.............................. jeez I miss those bats
I was in such an emotional down when it happened that I forgot to post a thread about the trashbags..........sigh.............................. jeez I miss those bats
bimmerpilot
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oilslick58
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Lol Sybian, no but I do help prolong quality of life
And here I thought you and Chris were just my Bat Fluffers.
Do yo thang man!
Braveheart23
Manager
Thats cool to know. Maybe the layers of plastic give some flex to the composite layers. Bend but dont break kinda thing.. well until they break
bimmerpilot
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Whachu talmbout mang...
This is Chris
This might provide some independent structural rigidity to minimize catastrophic failure associated with one wall cracking all walls.
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bimmerpilot
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I believe it was constructed using remnant carbon sheeting from Boeing. Reordering supply was probably cost prohibitive.