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So the catalogs from the baseballglovecollector have the black patch fading out, but still in some use, as late as 1991-'92. And the white patch is in place by '94-'95. Yours may still be late '70s early 80s though. Given the semi-kangaroo construction, early 80s is my new guess.

I am almost sure they had the new oval patch for 2000. And then with 9-11, they went to a flag background on the patch for 2002. About 2004 or 2005 they went with a bright red patch with Peta Nocona's head in profile. Then in 2007 or 2008 the bright red became more of a maroon.

I just found this in the SBF archives. I posted it shortly after having lunch with Joe. "Up until 1985 Nokona used the old school black patch with a gold script "Nokona." They hired a marketer (that I have met here in Dallas) and he told them it had to go. So they dumped it, but it took until...

I haven't talked to him in years, but I know Joe. He worked for a firm that did Nokona marketing for years. IIRC, he told me it was his idea to dump the black and gold. And for a period of about 5 years they did no patches, just stamps. Then the white patch era began (I think Joe had some input...

From your pics, I'd say it is just the back of the fingers that is kangaroo.

The Kangaroo leather is more like 3 oz. rather than the 4.5 oz cowhide Nokona used back then. You should be able to tell if it feels pretty thin. My son had a teammate back 10 years ago whose dad had a Nokona first base mitt made entirely out of kangaroo. It was the flimsiest glove I have ever...

Oh man, I'm going to have to dig into the old memory files on this one! I think the black and gold patches were used from the 1960s until 1985. Then they just used black stampings until the white patches were introduced around 1990. They used grommets later than you'd think, but I still think...

When you factor in the design quality (sorry Bob C), it is hard to argue your point. I'm not sure if they are buying cheaper leather or if there just isn't any good leather any more, but the pinkie patch ones are mainly great gloves.

Their labor costs are high. Back when Wilson and Rawlings were in the same boat, it worked. now that Wilson and Rawlings have moved production overseas and can sell for less, Nokona has no choice but to go upscale.

Thanks for getting this going! In for pics!

There was a guy in one of the FB groups that said kids need to be taught to wear their gloves like the pros, TIP with just their fingers in the glove and closing them thumb to pinkie (see Beltre below). I pointed out that kids don't have hand strength for that and his response was that you have...

It is interesting. Older glove designs were made so that the ball usually hit in the pocket, right below the web. They closed thumb to middle finger or even thumb to index finger. No fingers in the impact zone. But now everyone says they want to break in a glove to close thumb to pinkie. Now the...

That’s just crazy. I wish they’d just give new patterns a new model number,

Looks awesome. I cannot tell you how Horweeny that looks. Does it feel like Horween??

It ain’t traditional and it ain’t TIP. So what do we call what Dwight Evans is doing here? Has anyone ever tried this?

I play first base with a 13" fielders glove. I put a 1/8" thick piece of industrial grade wool felt inside the palm. It's a bit of work to custom cut a pad the right size, but you'd never know it's there. I think it is the best solution. Even a Horween DCT is going to just have a couple of...

This comment isn't anything new, IMO (I think this topic comes up here at SBF about every four years). I don't play at a level where guys show up with a $40 glove and 6 bats (you know, one for home runs, one for line drives, one for going opposite field, one for going middle, one for lefty...

Great looking glove! It is not clear on the website how to order rough welting. How'd you spec it?

Ah, the mystery glove! Rawlings has a Pro303 with this web, but the hinge lacing is not quite right. Then there is a Pro200 with this web, but the Pro200 has no welting between the fingers. AFAIK, this is it's own pattern, but it was never a stock glove. That is a lot of work for a DMS special...

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