1 piece aluminum


I just joined a league where the only rule is a piece aluminum. After all the reading, which is older threads, is the concensus the best one to buy a demarini doublewall or a demarini 375 of one can be found?
Thanks.there seems to be since really good aluminum bats but they are 2 piece.
 

east bay j

The Polish Hammer
Anderson Techzilla (multiwall)
Anderson Techwrap (multiwall)
Anderson Nanotek OG ASA or USSSA (singlewall)
Any older Easton Z-Core (multiwall) this would not include the Connexions, obviously
Rip It REAP3 (multiwall)
Rip It REAP5 (singlewall)
TPS XXL Dynasty (multiwall) there are probably alot of good TPS one-piece multiwalls out there, I don't have a lot of experience with these
Demarini's (as you stated)
Easton L8.0/SP12SVM (multiwall)-These have an inner composite wall wall outer metal wall

Probably a lot more but there are a lot of bats out there that would work. List gets a lot smaller if you are talking specific associations (i.e. ASA only)
JJ
 

east bay j

The Polish Hammer
Get in touch with Smarkley3--he is selling a number of nice older one-piece Anderson multiwalls (you can also look in the Anderson Section--he has some pics of them)
JJ
 
Man. I really appreciate the help. And I asked several times and they aren't going by Asa only just that 1 piece rule so thanks again.
I'll get with him.
 
Yes it does.
I'm looking at finding a nanotek, techwrap, tz, or doublewall distance.
Those rockettechs look good but they look like a piece bc they have that sleeve and I don't wanna have to explain it every at bat. ..it does look like that right? All I see are the pix
 

east bay j

The Polish Hammer
Yep,
Most would consider the Rocketech (RT) a two piece bat. Techzilla (TZ) is essentially the same as a RT, with the sleeve inside vs outside so it would be considered a 1 piece. biggest difference is the TZ's are more balanced while the RT's are more endloaded. Techwrap is also a good choice & I've seen a number of these and the TZ's selling on SBF. Nanotek is a bit harder to find but they are out there. Personally speaking, if your league allows a doublewall than I would go with a doublewall (vs a singlewall)

Only other factor would be the type of softballs your league uses.
JJ
 

gfmotorsports

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I felt like the RT had larger SS than TZ but other than that both great bats that would be at the top of my list. Eastons old src1 (i think, comp inner sleeve) was a great stick as well. Old c and z cores also crush the hard balls.
 

hitless45

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If the league is a ( one piece ) alum and double/ multi wall can be used demarini is what I would use i.e. distance, 375 etc..
 

batrater

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From my experience your best option is the multiwall Eastons. No longer made but if you can find an L8 or Salvo multiwall, I have found them to outhit the nanotech and Demarini double walls (F7 etc.). Never hit the Techzilla so don't know how they compare.

If you could find an og first batch Nano with blue end cap, but you wont, That bat would out hit any metal bat, single or double wall. Had one of those, had a couple waves so I returned it, biggest mistake I ever made.
 

east bay j

The Polish Hammer
Why would a blue endcap be better? I thought there were some issues with these 1st production OG's with regards to denting? I got an OG ASA with a nano/metal endcap. 1st of the 1st batches, they ended up switching to the plastic ones cause it was too hard getting them to fit. It's a beast of a 28 oz!!!!!
 

batrater

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That's the question I asked. Why was the first batch (with the blue end cap and dented easily) so much better than the one they replaced it with?

That was the only bat I could hit over 300' fence off a tee. Never did it with my L8, Salvo multiwall, or steels
 

Joker

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this is the dumb**** that tests bats with hockey pucks, ignore everything he says
 

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single wally

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Interested in the results and how it compares to one piece nanoteks, which are the king of one piece single walls. (for those leagues that allow them, at least)
 

oilslick58

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From my experience your best option is the multiwall Eastons. No longer made but if you can find an L8 or Salvo multiwall, I have found them to outhit the nanotech and Demarini double walls (F7 etc.). Never hit the Techzilla so don't know how they compare.

If you could find an og first batch Nano with blue end cap, but you wont, That bat would out hit any metal bat, single or double wall. Had one of those, had a couple waves so I returned it, biggest mistake I ever made.

Gimmie your info. Ill send you a bat that might change that post. I have hit most every bat i could fi d over the last 25 years. I have never hit a 1 pc easton that i considered even in my top 10. ..... tiphoooon excluded of couurse. To each his own....i do not use metal any more, so listen to guys like frisco before me.
 

Bobby Buggs

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Interested in the results and how it compares to one piece nanoteks, which are the king of one piece single walls. (for those leagues that allow them, at least)

While Nanotech was labeled single wall the composite layer on the outside really made me say otherwise
 

single wally

Professional Amateur
Nanotek got into a gray area of being a true single wall, because of the launchpad, but it's all metal. Here is the best explanation from Mr. Anderson himself.
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The NanoTek has been called an “All Metal Composite.” But what does that mean?

The confusion lies in the common usage of the term composite. It is generally related to the resin-over-fiber composite manufacturing technique used in building the current composite bat products. However, the question is more easily answered when you look to the actual definition of the word composite.

A composite is a mixture of different components or a structural material that gains its strength from a combination of complementary materials. A brick made from dirt and straw is a composite structure.

The NanoTek is not a composite bat. The NanoTek is a proprietary high strength, elastic alloy molecularly and permanently bonded to a precisely-engineered-aluminum alloy shell to form a single, all-metal, wall. It is only composite in the sense that more than one metal is used.

What is the LaunchPad design?

The NanoTek is not a two piece bat. The Nanotek Launchpad is an entirely metal design feature that creates a highly reactive hitting area while putting the weight directly behind the ball and strategically placing counteractive weight to optimize MOI.

The design is the result of a decade-old concept that was only made possible with the new material advancements. The Launchpad is a layer of super-hard, super-elastic material that is molecularly bonded at the atomic level over the entire effective hitting area. Because the Launchpad is harder and stronger it isolates the vibrational response to the work area of the barrel from the underlying aluminum substrate shell. What that means is that, because of the isolation, the underlying shell does not retain the residual vibrational energy from the ball-bat impact that normally travels up and down the length of the bat and is lost in a typical single-piece-bat design, nor is the energy absorbed in the connection as it is in a two-piece-bat design. The energy is captured in the Launchpad section of the NanoTek bat and because the Launchpad has higher elasticity it allows a more efficient transfer of the energy to the flight of the ball. Because of the barrel isolation with unlike materials the effective hitting area is larger than other single wall bats by more than double.

If the NanoTek is not a composite bat and the launch pad is layers of bonded metals, the question becomes, “Is NanoTek a multiwall bat?”

The NanoTek is not a multiwall bat. The whole object to the design of a multiwall bat is that the walls can move independently like the leaf springs on a car. The idea is to increase the flexibility of the system by allowing the individual components flex independently and maintaining durability by the overall thickness of the combined walls.

The NanoTek’s performance comes from the thin, single, barrel wall which is made possible by the LaunchPad.
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smarkley3

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To add on the Nano all metal mats are alloys. Any made out of pure any metal would not preform as well as a alloy. The Nano is unique in the fact that it has a ferrous metal bonded with an aluminum alloy, which has copper, zinc and silicon, to give strength, flexibility and hardness.
 

Bobby Buggs

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Can anyone really tell us what that wrap of material was and why no other bat company tried to come out with something similar. I see allot of words being used and definitions but no real conclusions
 
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