2014 Miken Super Freak HPS ASA One-piece

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Flippingeo

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Hi all, I'm playing in a coed rec league using 52/300s. I've got a fleet of UTrip bats that I've used for years (this was all I played with in my younger years). Apparently, I'm doing myself a disservice by using my UTrip bats in this league...

I had to look through my bat bin to see if I had any ASA. Alas, I found this...

I believe it to be a 2014 model. It probably has less than 100 cuts on it. I remember buying it when I was going to play in a work ASA league. Ended up having eye surgery after 3 games and it really hasn't seen the light of day since.

Looking at old reviews, it seems like this was considered a hot bat. Does it hold up today, being 12+ years old? I just bought a KP23 UTrip, so I really don't want to have to buy a new one.

You guys are far more knowledgeable than I am, so I figured I'd ask here.

Thanks in advance
 

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These perform very well when well broken in. I played on a team with some college students several years ago and them boys raked with that thing, the more swings the put on it the better it got as with any of those miken or any linear bat from back then did. That said tho, if the kp is a recent version you may not be at a disadvantage using it if the league allows you to use utrip bats.
 
ShortYellowBus

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It’s a log. Especially with less than 100 swings.

I Highly recommend the utrip bats over the Asa bats every time.

Sure, there’s a few scenarios where a person can extract slightly more performance from an ASA/USA bat. It can happen.

But the fact is, the utrip bats are multiplying the batted ball performance by a factor of 1.2 (the limit), erstwhile the ASA/USA bats have a 98mph restriction.

Swing the newer utrip bats.
 
Muscles220

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ShortYellowBus said:
It’s a log. Especially with less than 100 swings.

I Highly recommend the utrip bats over the Asa bats every time.

Sure, there’s a few scenarios where a person can extract slightly more performance from an ASA/USA bat. It can happen.

But the fact is, the utrip bats are multiplying the batted ball performance by a factor of 1.2 (the limit), erstwhile the ASA/USA bats have a 98mph restriction.

Swing the newer utrip bats.
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Not exactly.

1.20BPF is about 1.2X the BBCOR of wood. It doesn’t not translate exactly to mph because of the way that ASA calculates the mph using a BPF and other factors combined into a formula. Different BPF’s can result in the same mph because of how it’s calculated. However, 1.20BPF is generally slightly hotter than 98mph. Wood bats test about 90mph. 1.2x90=108, but 1.2X the BBCOR of wood is not 108mph because that’s not how it is calculated.

But wait! There’s more!

It depends on the era. Different stamps used different balls in the test. 220 stamp Utrip bats used a .40/325 ball. 240 stamp Utrip bats test near 1.20BPF using a .44/375 ball. It’s unclear to me whether the ball in the pre-thumprint era used a .47/500, or .44/375. Some research needs to be done. Post 2012 ASA bats used a .52/300 ball.

220 Utrip is slightly hotter than post 2012 ASA. 2012 to current ASA is hotter than 240 Utrip or any prior Utrip.
 
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