ASA ASA Player Ejection

[Randolph31]

What's the call...

To set the scene we are playing in an ASA league. The batter uses an expletive which causes the umpire to immediately kick him out. The batter says another expletive and the umpire says "you have 30 seconds to pack your bag and get up the hill before I call the entire game." The batter goes to the dugout and the umpire feels that the 30 seconds has been met and then calls the entire game.

Can an umpire call the entire game due to one players actions? Can someone please reference the rule and subsection from the ASA rule book if this is the case.

Thanks in advance.

 

[MaverickAH]

ASA Rule 8.4.B: Disqualified or Ejected Player

An ejected participant must leave the grounds and have no contact with the umpires or participants in the game.
Effect: The game is forfeited.


Personally, I think that the umpire was a little quick on the trigger. Not on the ejection but on the giving just 30 seconds. Then again, I don't know if you've given all of the necessary details which may have preceded the ejection.


So the answer is, YES, an umpire can call the entire game due to one players actions............

 

[eddieq]

What Maverick said but also...

Where there any subs available for him? If not, game over anyway.

 

[milesej05]

What Maverick said but also...

Where there any subs available for him? If not, game over anyway.

I was under the impression if someone gets ejected you cannot sub someone in for them.

 

[eddieq]

I was under the impression if someone gets ejected you cannot sub someone in for them.

Exactly the opposite, actually. If you have an available sub, they must enter the game when someone leaves for any reason (including an ejection). If you have no subs, you can play shorthanded UNLESS you're shorthanded due to an ejection, so you forfeit. It's part of the shorthanded rule, not the "Disqualified Player" rule quoted above. Rule 4.1.D in ASA. It's different in USSSA, I believe, but I don't call USSSA Slowpitch (or FP anymore, actually).

 

[irishmafia]

I was under the impression if someone gets ejected you cannot sub someone in for them.

If that were the case, every ejection of a player in the line up would result in a forfeit

 

[irishmafia]

What's the call...

To set the scene we are playing in an ASA league. The batter uses an expletive which causes the umpire to immediately kick him out. The batter says another expletive and the umpire says "you have 30 seconds to pack your bag and get up the hill before I call the entire game." The batter goes to the dugout and the umpire feels that the 30 seconds has been met and then calls the entire game.

Actually, by rule (5.4.G) an ejected participant has one minute. Umpire is too quick to threaten a forfeit. Then again, some people are just too hard-headed to understand that an ejection isn't an immediate free pass to act like an ass.

Can an umpire call the entire game due to one players actions? Can someone please reference the rule and subsection from the ASA rule book if this is the case.

Thanks in advance.

Yes, same rule

 

[Randolph31]

Basically the details above were just that. Batter gets a called strike that he does not agree with. Swings at the next pitch. Uses the expletive towards the umpire. Umpire tosses him. Batter used another expletive and umpire said you have 30 seconds.

Now, our coach for our team went out and talked to the umpire and he finally let us keep the game going and we did have a sub so we were fine. But as a team we felt like he pulled the trigger on calling the game quickly(obviously because it's our team) but in all my years of playing softball(10 years next summer) I had never seen anything like that. I knew I could get an answer pretty quick on here though.

 

[NCASAUmp]

Basically the details above were just that. Batter gets a called strike that he does not agree with. Swings at the next pitch. Uses the expletive towards the umpire. Umpire tosses him. Batter used another expletive and umpire said you have 30 seconds.

Now, our coach for our team went out and talked to the umpire and he finally let us keep the game going and we did have a sub so we were fine. But as a team we felt like he pulled the trigger on calling the game quickly(obviously because it's our team) but in all my years of playing softball(10 years next summer) I had never seen anything like that. I knew I could get an answer pretty quick on here though.

Quick trigger? Sure, most definitely.

Deserved the tossing? Damn right. It's slow pitch softball, stop the whining and hit the damn ball.

 

[Randolph31]

Quick trigger? Sure, most definitely.

Deserved the tossing? Damn right. It's slow pitch softball, stop the whining and hit the damn ball.

I agree with everything you said. It was an odd 5 minutes to say the least.

 

[fuzzy2651]

I got tossed my first year in the league a few years ago. Had a few too many before the game and I took issue with a call at second. He let me hang around because I rode with a buddy, but I couldn't interact with the team or anything. I went over and apologized the next game, and he and I have been cool ever since.

 

[irishmafia]

Basically the details above were just that. Batter gets a called strike that he does not agree with. Swings at the next pitch. Uses the expletive towards the umpire. Umpire tosses him. Batter used another expletive and umpire said you have 30 seconds.

Now, our coach for our team went out and talked to the umpire and he finally let us keep the game going and we did have a sub so we were fine. But as a team we felt like he pulled the trigger on calling the game quickly(obviously because it's our team) but in all my years of playing softball(10 years next summer) I had never seen anything like that. I knew I could get an answer pretty quick on here though.

While the 30 seconds is not that recommended in the rule book, the person who was in total control of a possible forfeit was the ******* who preferred to run at the mouth.