phxraida15
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The team that got doubled dipped in E west from AZ has 3 guys on it that won C worlds... But they couldn't win E?
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- Thread starter Dakota Deerwood
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The team that got doubled dipped in E west from AZ has 3 guys on it that won C worlds... But they couldn't win E?
ilyk2win
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phxraida15
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Who's trolling? All I see is a bunch of people crying about a team sandbagging that sandbags....
Debo03
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Which C worlds did they win?
phxraida15
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Don't remember the exact year? Maybe 2009/2010... These ain't no scrubs now either... They won worlds with RMS trucking...
ser7643
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I think this makes my rating system make even more sense. These guys would not have been allowed to play E on any level which helps keep people in the higher divisions and help build those levels instead of having a 500 team E world tournament....which will come soon IMHO.
Next people will be flocking to the Restaurant and Church World Tournaments!
LitesOut21
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The pitcher in that game is a director in PA for usssa also lol. He knows those damn books front to back. I hated to even be apart of the **** show that came up but its whatever. I was on third that game only guy in a white shirt for our team or I would have pitched and I have the same attitude as him as well about middle. It was a fun game for sure very close but someone had to win, tough that a guy got tossed tho. Maybe in D next year we will run into each other if you guys play up I know we are 100%
Jallennh
Very First Factory Hitter
you guys can debate this till your blue in the face, I did, every year I went, and now the Mixed divisions are tainted as well. Why? Starts at the top, see Don D. wants the teams, needs the teams, and needs to fill Disney rooms. He totally refuses to get into or let his divison vp's get into roster arguments. Bottom line, if state director says so, it's sealed in gold at that point. Starts at the top, but all liability falls on the State Directors.
synergy40
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We came in 5th in 2009 With 270 teams it has slowly decrease every year thereafter. Not sure about 500 teams, D and c teams have increased slightly as well
ser7643
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Totally agree....you and I have had this discussion in the past. Our coed team has been together for 5+ years....some couples and some life long friends. Guys play E some girls play D so we play D. I guarantee there will be a team in Mixed D this year where all the guys play C (and getting bumped to B) but will be allowed to play D even though rule is only 3 C players on a mixed D team because they are tight with State Director. All they want is your money.
ser7643
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Were there 2-3 World Tournaments back then like now? How many E teams are playing in a World tournament this year whether it be in Orlando, out west or up north?
synergy40
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Yes there were multiple worlds, not sure of the numbers now as I don't play e. Also I thought you were talking Disney only
Dakota Deerwood
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Im going to do my best to play down there next year. Yeah, we are making some changes for 2015, and we will probably be moving up to D.
Stretch19
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pretty sure they lost at the USSSA worlds and came out of the losers bracket to win it...
ilyk2win
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My bad....then they double dipped the only team they lost to....22-1
Looks like my minor inaccuracy probably means they weren't sandbagging afterall
Stretch19
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but at the end of the day, they got beat. if you dont think the top 10-20 teams in every worlds, EVERY year arent sandbagging, you really need to get out more often.
like dakota deerwood said, they should have lost the game to High Maintenance as they were down big and HM stopped hitting
if you go and look at some of the other teams that finished high, they have guys who have played C/D within the last few years...Southland just happened to be the only team who was able to put it all together and win the tourney
like dakota deerwood said, they should have lost the game to High Maintenance as they were down big and HM stopped hitting
if you go and look at some of the other teams that finished high, they have guys who have played C/D within the last few years...Southland just happened to be the only team who was able to put it all together and win the tourney
ilyk2win
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I don't think anyone was saying they were the only team sandbagging.
It sounds like they were the most obvious.
It sounds like GA and IL are under the most scrutiny as States who are the worst offenders. (one could make an argumnent for AZ too)
Saying that the top 20 teams in every division are doing it shouldn't excuse it.
Stretch19
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its just the same tired ass argument that goes on after every big tourney...the team that won it was sandbagging, blah blah blah
no matter who it was, where they were from or anything along those lines, every time someone wins a world, there are going to be people crying about they should have been playing a different division
no matter who it was, where they were from or anything along those lines, every time someone wins a world, there are going to be people crying about they should have been playing a different division
whogotz
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this is true - however we should be able to get better scrutiny of rosters by the directors that are making good money each event - to ensure a closer to level playing field
some of the sandbagging has been off the charts blatant and too far - thats what bothers me.
ilyk2win
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Agreed. IMO this wasn't your run of the mill sandbagging by the way it sounds.....it seems pretty egregious.
Being from Georgia, I agree it looks very bad. The new director wanted to see the state do well in worlds, which I can understand, but allowing teams to megabag is not the way to do it. Southland has won numerous world titles in E. One of the guys from the 2nd place team in D worlds was on two different B rosters this year. Surprise, surprise he got all tournament.
The director we had in place before the new director took over could care less how teams finished in worlds. He had his favorite teams and would let them do whatever they wanted. He is the reason our team doesn't play U-trip in GA anymore, but instead cross the river and play in SC.
The new director has already stated that the Eagle Paint team that finished 2nd in C world last year (and played minimal U-trip tourneys this year) is being allowed to drop back to C. How this works I don't know.
The director we had in place before the new director took over could care less how teams finished in worlds. He had his favorite teams and would let them do whatever they wanted. He is the reason our team doesn't play U-trip in GA anymore, but instead cross the river and play in SC.
The new director has already stated that the Eagle Paint team that finished 2nd in C world last year (and played minimal U-trip tourneys this year) is being allowed to drop back to C. How this works I don't know.
phxraida15
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I need a like button for this...
The Chosen 1
The Rookie
Tell them what the score of the first championship game was and how many hits Ball Game had!!!!
#52
Munson
I can say that I personally witnessed the tourney director verbally assault the 40 and Over team about their roster when we played them and he came from the stadium to check their roster. He basically said in so many words that it is teams like this that have players from majors, A, B, C, and D on an E roster is killing the sport and if.....IF......he had the authority to do so he would kick them out because of it. But since the state director allowed them to come his hands were tied basically making them a legal illegal roster. Now I'm not a smart man but why does the national office not double check these things? Seriously they leave this decision up to the state director who probably has no clue who these guys are or what teams and at what level they played at previously. My team has been to 7 straight UTrip worlds as an E team and once as a D team after an autobump for finishing 7th in E's the year before, after what we learned about how the National office assumses no responsibility for roster approval I can honestly say I think this year was our last playing UTrip. Unfortunately I don't think any of the other associations are any better because it is all about making money.
Stretch19
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yeah because the scores that are reported via the website are always right
rkjunior
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USSSA needs a national database and make everyone register with a valid SSN. If the PSP can do it with their national paintball series, USSSA can do it, which is much larger of an organization. It's not impossible. They're just as bad for enabling it. It would be very easy to institute an ID system.
ilyk2win
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If you have a more accurate reporting of the score, please share......so until someone refutes the accuracy of the site with the actual score, then that's what we have to go on.