Horween only makes a batch of the glove leather when they have orders for something like 150 hides. GS liked to buy 10 at a time (SLCS too). Bob's been having a hard time getting it in and Glovesmith cancelled their last order after waiting 6 months. They are now using a Japanese tanned tan (looks like the Nike Sha|do tan) which is a bit softer than the Horween. The black is US tanned, but is no longer from Horween. While the new black does not have the matte waxy finish of the Horween, it is a lot lighter weight. Bart tells me it is a little bit thicker and softer than the Horween, making it easier to work with and break in. All good to me. I am tired of spending 6 months breaking a glove in just to the point I can use it.