MBplayer
Canadian Bat *****
so tell me about the owner.....is he a douche?
lol yes yes I am haha.
New bat company??
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lol yes yes I am haha.
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so tell me about the owner.....is he a douche?
Which one, there is multiple, ranging in coolness :nana:
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Our bats are made overseas along with 80% of other providers. As for where they are made, that is our trade information which remains ABC proprietary information and any manufacturing facility doing business are bound by manufacturing agreements not to disclose other clients confidential information. I can't tell you where any other companies bats are produced as any reputable manufacturer will not disclose this type of information. similarities exist in all bats and while upon appearance ours may appear similar to other companies, there are significant changes from our prototypes to what will eventually be our production models.
At their root, all non linear design bats are of a similar make up. What makes them all different is the materials used and the methods of employing said materials. From Louisville to demarini and combat and all others employing a non linear design,there are commonalities that exist. Our methods of material used and methods of employing said materials are just as different as any of the aforementioned companies are to one another. What makes a bat sound is no more than the aforementioned materials interaction between one another. Our bat sounds as unique as any other of the companies using their own unique process to produce the best products for you our potential end user.
per ABC R and D Specialist
It's clear that the bats come from the same place that Monsta does by appearance. If not then one of your guy's manufacturers will be in contact with the other for building the bats exactly alike.
So there is no inner barrel device or technology? If there isn't, how will a nonlinear shell be durable and high performing without nothing inside of it? I'm very intrigued by the little guy stepping up in the market and look forward to seeing you guys progress. Best wishes.
So there is no inner barrel device or technology? If there isn't, how will a nonlinear shell be durable and high performing without nothing inside of it? I'm very intrigued by the little guy stepping up in the market and look forward to seeing you guys progress. Best wishes.
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As it has been stated multiple times before, ABC is in the process of testing and trying to make the best possible bat can. Tons of R and D has gone into this, the testing has been done, and now need to evaluate the findings and proceed.
Thank you for concern and interest although
Thank you for concern and interest although
RustyShakleford
Well-Known Member
I don't see any douche-like tenancies with what I've seen written on the Facebook page by the owners/reps for this company. Their comments about the bat are that they are "up there with other top end bats in terms of performance." I don't see the ego trip of "our bats are the best ever" like other small company bat makers.
MBplayer
Canadian Bat *****
Nah we are not about to come out and say ours are better. Lets face it any manufacturer these days the bats at the top are all so close its a swing weight preference and comfort level for the best possible bat for the individual. At the end of the day we are just normal softball loving guys trying to make something that people will enjoy.
And thanks for the compliments we have and will continue to pride ourselves on customer service being #1!
MB
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As stated previously, I can't tell you where other companies have their bats made as that is information private to that particular company. If similarities exist, they are purely coincidental as many manufacturers in China have similar practices until changes are requested. We have sampled bats from several different companies and if their information was not on their models I would be hard pressed to recognize any difference in most while having them in my possession, let alone judging from a picture or video. The current models in place are a mix of 4 different manufacturers built to our specifications and are all undergoing evaluation in the field for particular characteristics we are looking for.
Also as stated previously, we are producing a non linear bat and without going into specifics we do employ a performance limiting, association specifically tuned device to obtain desired BBS standards.
ABC R and D Specialist
Also as stated previously, we are producing a non linear bat and without going into specifics we do employ a performance limiting, association specifically tuned device to obtain desired BBS standards.
ABC R and D Specialist
doublebagel
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johnnybravo6
The Edumacated One
Carl, I didn't know you were back on SBF?
MAB= Monsta Athletic Bats????
I am pretty certain that ABC isn't copying any of your designs, maybe you should stop prying for information and worry about your own company. Do you bother every other manufacturer that makes their shells in China? Pretty classless move if you ask me, but wouldn't expect anything else from the leader of the Monsta Militia!!
MAB= Monsta Athletic Bats????
I am pretty certain that ABC isn't copying any of your designs, maybe you should stop prying for information and worry about your own company. Do you bother every other manufacturer that makes their shells in China? Pretty classless move if you ask me, but wouldn't expect anything else from the leader of the Monsta Militia!!
Popcorn in hand, ready to watch the fun.
My .02 if MAB is Carl. Since they took down the Monsta customer service thread that was here, couldn't post my experience with Monsta bat owners. Wouldn't buy one new since there are so many complaints about their service, so bought a Black Widow used. First time ever that I had to request a refund from the bay b/c the d-bag never provided shipping info, wouldn't respond to messages. Still didn't respond with so much as an apology or reason why it hadn't been shipped (would have rather had the bat).
1st and last time I will consider a Monsta bat.
My .02 if MAB is Carl. Since they took down the Monsta customer service thread that was here, couldn't post my experience with Monsta bat owners. Wouldn't buy one new since there are so many complaints about their service, so bought a Black Widow used. First time ever that I had to request a refund from the bay b/c the d-bag never provided shipping info, wouldn't respond to messages. Still didn't respond with so much as an apology or reason why it hadn't been shipped (would have rather had the bat).
1st and last time I will consider a Monsta bat.
BrandoMartino23
the dude
lets not derail this...keep on topic of new bat that could be something pretty noice
doublebagel
Manager
That thread is still open, in the other manufacturers area.
http://forums.softballfans.com/showthread.php?t=1423536&page=24
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Well said fella.................................. :focus:
addicted2bats
Active Member
MAB is Joker, trying to make it look like he's Carl.
Calling it now
Calling it now
johnnybravo6
The Edumacated One
Correct sir, back on topic
^^true dat^^
Hope they get it to US ASA market and SBF carries it. Would like to try the devil worship bat.
Ah, thx, figured they deleted it since it wasn't in the lounge threads. Didn't figure they would give it any more respect.
Haha, I'm not Carl. Read threw all of my posts and see where I critique Monsta on a regular basis, even noting that Monsta won't last 5 more years. I just don't agree with a lot of people's reasons for bashing Monsta.
I'm done posting in this thread as comments from others would detract from the point of this thread. I was simply noting that the bats are built just like Monstas and wanted more info. Carl could just call his manufacturer and ask if anarchy was being made there, anyway.
Best of luck to ABC. Looking forward to seeing the small companies try and become contenders in this crazy game.
I'm done posting in this thread as comments from others would detract from the point of this thread. I was simply noting that the bats are built just like Monstas and wanted more info. Carl could just call his manufacturer and ask if anarchy was being made there, anyway.
Best of luck to ABC. Looking forward to seeing the small companies try and become contenders in this crazy game.
doublebagel
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I don't get this at all. Wouldn't the "greatest" bad work the best for everyone?
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Nope, cause not all people like EL or balance, and some bats only come in either EL or balance. Some bats come in .5 weights, many don't like that either. This is just from my experience thru the years of playing. Heck we all know im worn 99% of time, other 1% is BS :yawn:
just my .02...
scuderia
Addicted to Softballfans
I was interested in viewing the videos, if they’re offered in horizontal and not vertical orientation, but you don't have a facebook page like you said. You have a closed group meaning people have to be a member to view the videos. Nobody got time for that.
You should post the videos or just the watch='s if you're concerned and not worry about this thread being buried in no man’s land because none of the people this forum frequently scumbags others over for have products out, or coming out, that you compete with. Unless they do in which case you’re screwed anyway. Thanks. :thumb:
You should post the videos or just the watch='s if you're concerned and not worry about this thread being buried in no man’s land because none of the people this forum frequently scumbags others over for have products out, or coming out, that you compete with. Unless they do in which case you’re screwed anyway. Thanks. :thumb:
Outside of the weighting differences, the "best bat" at each weighting would presumably work for most people. I just don't get the sentiment of 'this bat works for me' despite lower exit velocity (or however you measure a bat).
RustyShakleford
Well-Known Member
Considering that almost all of the top tier bats from most bat makers for each association are going to preform well in testing. It then comes down to what works best for each individual person in the real world. If someone likes to swing a balanced bat but an endloaded bat has a slightly higher BBS in testing. That won't mean that the endloaded bat will perform well for that person cause it doesn't fit their swing. If they hit pop-ups or weak ground balls right at people instead of gaps or holes, it doesn't really matter how what the exit velocity is in a lab.
Again - if you hold weighting issues constant, wouldn't you want the "best" bat even if you suck. I don't understand how a worse bat, with the same weighting parameters, would be better.