Pure Hellfire bat

jhitman

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I don't know too much about this bat, but have heard a lot of great things about it for ASA/USA ball. Has anyone swung this bat and what are your thoughts?
 

jhitman

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Normy,

Have you hit this bat? I saw some videos on this bat and it was smoking the ball real well. I'm looking to add a new bat and this might be the one.
 

BTW300

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I ordered one about a month ago. Probably be another month until I receive it. I saw on Facebook they are taking more preorders for the Hellfire and Sidewinder.
 

Normy

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Normy,

Have you hit this bat? I saw some videos on this bat and it was smoking the ball real well. I'm looking to add a new bat and this might be the one.
I have not but saw a few YouTube reviews. Looks promising but may not make a very good cooler weather bat up here in Michigan. Hoping to get more feedback on this post.
 

jhitman

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Thanks for the input. You are right about it may not be good in the cooler weather. I have heard that too.
 

ShortYellowBus

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Any reason the pure is going to be garbage?
Perhaps I’m being overly cynical, but all the bats Pure sells are made from composite materials that have been previously used. Recycled.

Essentially, composite can’t be recycled. That’s why so many pure bats have a reputation for having inconsistent quality.
 

jhitman

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Perhaps I’m being overly cynical, but all the bats Pure sells are made from composite materials that have been previously used. Recycled.

Essentially, composite can’t be recycled. That’s why so many pure bats have a reputation for having inconsistent quality.
I didn't know that about the Pure bats. Question, I have the Krecher ASA bat for the 52 cor mush balls. I like the bat and it hits them as good as most any bat that I have seen. Do you know of any new technology specifically geared for the 52 cor balls? Any new bats coming out that may hit these balls better for 2023? All I see most running out are the same old bats and most are just repaints.
 

ShortYellowBus

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Here’s a tip for ASA/USA guys..

If you’re a hero with a bat in your hand, grab a bat with a higher passing psi threshold. An Anarchy; older the better.

If you’re a singles guy, grab a bat with a lower psi threshold. Think of the Ghost or anything Monsta.

Krecher is for the upper middle tier swing speeds. They’re great bats but perhaps a 12” barrel might help if you’re looking for extra performance. 12” bats swing lighter/faster than 13-14” barrel bats.
 

Protectyaneck

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If you’re a hero with a bat in your hand, grab a bat with a higher passing psi threshold. An Anarchy; older the better.

If you’re a singles guy, grab a bat with a lower psi threshold. Think of the Ghost or anything Monsta.

Anarchy Xcores and the most popular 25oz Monstas(M2s) have the same threshold, 1050. The Anarchy shortbarrels fail at 900.
Hypes(the most fragile, lightest, designed for rec players) have an even higher threshhold, at 1350.

Your message isnt wrong, but the PSI numbers aren't what hitters should be focused on.
 

jhitman

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Also, saw a velo demo for the new Pure Sidewinder bat. It's hard to believe that an ASA/USA bat could reach 107mph velo and still be within the legal limits. I would like to see more demo's to make me a believer.
 

eviladams

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I ordered one about a month ago. Probably be another month until I receive it. I saw on Facebook they are taking more preorders for the Hellfire and Sidewinder.
Same except not on FB. I don’t have FB. I saw on the website that was selling them as preorders advertising as order now for the next wave at the end of November. I texted the owner like WTF??? How can you be taking preorders again with a shipping date when I’m still waiting on mine? He changed the site and they weren’t accepting PO’s anymore.
 

jhitman

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In the past you used to be able to get bats at any time from multiple sites. Now these bat manufacturers never seem to have them in stock. I have been trying to get the Louisville Slugger bats for several months now. I assume the supply chain is what's causing these problems. Either way, these companies are losing out on a lot of revenue by not having these bats fully stocked. You only wait so long for a bat and then you move on to something else.
 

jbo911

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Supply chain is part of it, but I think they're tired of the losses of over production too. Remember how there'd be mountains of eastons on closeout every year? Louisville used to be the same, then one year it just stopped pre COVID. Then the one piece Genesis came out, and they haven't caught up to demand since.
 

jhitman

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Supply chain is part of it, but I think they're tired of the losses of over production too. Remember how there'd be mountains of eastons on closeout every year? Louisville used to be the same, then one year it just stopped pre COVID. Then the one piece Genesis came out, and they haven't caught up to demand since.
This makes a lot of sense to me. I agree on the over production too. I have several buddies that have been trying to get the LS bats and to no avail. I guess some Canadian stores may have them, but more cost for shipping.

Softballfans used to have a great selection of bats, but not so much any longer. Can you tell me why as I used to buy all my bats from here?
 

hitless45

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This makes a lot of sense to me. I agree on the over production too. I have several buddies that have been trying to get the LS bats and to no avail. I guess some Canadian stores may have them, but more cost for shipping.

Softballfans used to have a great selection of bats, but not so much any longer. Can you tell me why as I used to buy all my bats from here?
Cause the sbf store itself in Michigan closed doors due to the COVID crap. Concourse team express is the parent company along with baseball/softball.com do sell bats but don't seem to stock as much as sbf used to.
 

jbo911

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Yeah, I think it's all computerized and up to the bean counters.

Right now I think ls are only available from them directly and maybe one other retailer. I ordered from their Canadian division and the shipping was fast and about the same price for me.
 

jhitman

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Cause the sbf store itself in Michigan closed doors due to the COVID crap. Concourse team express is the parent company along with baseball/softball.com do sell bats but don't seem to stock as much as sbf used to.
It doesn't seem like many companies have a lot of stock right now. I guess the supply chain is part of the problem. I've had really good luck finding good deals on bats from SIS in NY. It's my go to place for bats now.
 
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