FlashTheLeather
Addicted to Softballfans
Do you get a signing bonus from someone for only swinging one brand of bat? How dare you carry more than just LS or just Combat bats in your bag.
Louisville Slugger Catalyst (SB105) Softball Bat Replacement Bat Issue
- Thread starter dturner22
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Do you get a signing bonus from someone for only swinging one brand of bat? How dare you carry more than just LS or just Combat bats in your bag.
gold_glove9
<font color="Orange">Utility Player</font>
OP says the warrior is valued at $99.00, but yet sold for $79.99 on their own page...
hcarcrx
#WEAKSAUCE
Oh dear god, why didnt you just use a pinto and lambo analogy?
You can not fix a broken bat for christs sake, You can however repair a automobile and have it be better than before.
mattun
Internet Tough Guy
I still can't get over the complaining about be forced to get the Sonic. Did anybody notice all the ASA Sonics on the board are $180+ USED? Obviously, nobody has hit one, but it seems safe to assume it would be the TPS replacement for the Catalyst and will probably be priced at $200. I'd almost prefer a Sonic with warranty to a NR Z2000. Especially after my Z busted in 250 swings. Hell, I'm hoping it's a repaint and people find red Catty serial numbers under the grip.
FlashTheLeather
Addicted to Softballfans
Are you seriously a grown man crying over $99?
$80 is a lot more comparable to $100 than $100 is to $249.
FlashTheLeather
Addicted to Softballfans
Because if you are comparing prices...Ranger is to a Raptor ($20k versus $60k) as a Catalyst is to a Z2000 ($100 versus $300).
hcarcrx
#WEAKSAUCE
Please reread what Herts had typed, then you, and then you again. You are simply grasping at nothing.
Herts had stated something comparable, that was all. Metal bat is not compareable, neither is a bat that will be 7 months out.
Ive been in customer service for years, and what LS is doing to their customers is horrible. You should not feel like a criminal when you call to get your bat issue taken care of. Without us as customers, they do not have a job, and not able to put food on the table for their families. Not everyone has $300+ to drop on a softball bat, so they buy a bat that is in their price range with the warranty incase anything happens to it. I have never had a customer that had a issue with replacement or repair of their product from me. We put the customer at a inconvience with our mistake, and we do our best to make them happy and want to come back. I have had dealings with LS customer service before and its far below standard. I will never use LS products again, and will stay with Worth, Easton, Miken due to they have taken care of the customers when they have a issue.
And dont try and use the Raptor/ Ranger analogy, nice try but not close to what is going on here.
single wally
Professional Amateur
Matt the difference is Easton has L6s for busted L6s, unlike LS they know how to manage their returns inventory. And like someone else said Demar was able to give good returns on the Legend when it was selling at blowout prices so why can't LS?
MBplayer
Canadian Bat *****
As a matter of fact I do. :wtf2:
Listen to each their own as to what they swing. I am pretty sure myself and Herts have responded about the complete disregard that LS have shown to their "loyal" customers with this decision. But do what you want and defend who you want I could honestly care less. And yes I have switched from exclusively swinging LS to Combat for the upcoming season. Does that mean I get paid or a bonus to swing a certain brand of stick? Hell no but why the hell would I have one of each brand in my bag when I can have one brand and a couple of the same stick I like in case one breaks etc. I am currently buying up pretty much one of each model I think I may like then once I swing them I will sell off the ones I do not like and get a couple more of the ones I do. Understand?
Have a great day and keep on the LS train good for you!
MB:biggthumpup:
mattun
Internet Tough Guy
For me, being first in line for next year's bat and getting 1 year warranty for my trouble doesn't sound that bad (has anybody ever offered that before?). I'm assuming my remaining Cattys will break (considering the way my other two went out). So for me, it's like I spent $60 on a Sonic Pre-order and they're letting me swing a Red Catty this year while I wait. Sure, LS screwed up by going Z crazy and not offering any lower price point bats this year creating the Catty to Z upgrade loophole last year, but I still honestly believe the Sonic offer is a much better deal than a $100 credit to the store or whatever they could have done as an alternate. LS could probably legally argue that the Warrior is technically their lower pricepoint bat for 2014 if they really wanted to be ****s about it. Nothing states you absolutely must receive a composite for a composite bat or an end loaded for an end loaded. The return for a Worth PST is a composite for example. They just do that to be nice. Is anybody really going to sue or quit LS if they don't get a Z back for a $70 bat? It's all pissing and moaning, soon to be forgotten.
Chrisklol
301' Bombs
Using your analogy it would be like this,
I bought a Ford Raptor for 60k I drive it and it falls apart. Ford tells me that I can't get another Raptor and I can have a Ranger now or Wait 6 months + to get a somewhat similar truck. Then that's only after they ask you how many miles you drove, on what terrain, how many times you touched the redline, what kind of gas you used, and how many times you changed the oil, what type of oil you used, how much you weigh, how many passengers did you carry in the truck, what's your skill level of driving, did you tow anything, and did you always back into your parking spot or just pull in?
Then they would make you fax them a proof of purchase and then they won't call you back and then when you do they have you fax it again because they lost it. Finally they may think about giving you a warranty return.
Anyways your analogy sucks, your thought process sucks.
hcarcrx
#WEAKSAUCE
I hope Worth sent back a composite for a PST, The PST were $400+ bats.
Chrisklol
301' Bombs
Yes, easton didn't have a 100H to return me, they gave me a 329$ (MSRP+shipping)(not what I paid)credit to use and the bat I bought would then come with a full warranty.
hcarcrx
#WEAKSAUCE
Also Easton has issued bags before when the returns ran longer than expected.
ESuperst4r
Addicted to Softballfans
Yeah this move by LS can be twisted anyway you want, but the fact of the matter is there are customers who are getting screwed over this and they will lose business. I hope my new z2k doesn't break because I don't want to deal with the warranty dept.
SouthSTLOF
Coach
I've no doubts that the LS warranty department would not be as badly handled as it is had LS put out a bat that didn't have such terrible durability problems. Their own craftsmanship has come back to haunt them with what seems like every sold bat breaking within the warranty period. I'd be very curious to know how many claims each of the companies dealt with on a daily basis and I'd put $ down that LS blows them all away. When their bats don't break, they're great, but if you choose to sacrifice durability in order to have the "hottest" bat on the market, causing people to buy your bat in droves, only to have all those sold bats due to their popularity start breaking, guess what!? You have now created your own problem. Would people really have not bought enough Z's to turn a decent profit if they had taken 100-200 swings to fully break in and get hot like most manufacturers? Especially considering the durability issues lie with the USSSA models, which most of us are still hitting the harder 44/400 balls or something very similar. At the beginning of 2013 I didn't own a single USSSA bat, only had played ASA until that point. Heard two things about Z's, hot really fast, don't last. Never gave a second thought to going to another brand. I don't have the $ or patience or luck to deal with fragile bats, regardless of how well they swing. There are simply too many other manufactuers that can provide a bat that will become similarly hot (they all have to stay within the same tested standards) and can still last 1000+ swings and be equal to or less than the LS price model.
mattun
Internet Tough Guy
So is price point the determining factor or contruction? $80 Composite could be justified as a $100 Metal return just as easily.
single wally
Professional Amateur
Matt you've already flipped several $70 cattys into Z2Ks so I think it's easy to have positive outlook from your perspective. I only flipped one red catty and paid $120 for it, so maybe I'm just jealous... 
mattun
Internet Tough Guy
Matt you've already flipped several $70 cattys into Z2Ks so I think it's easy to have positive outlook from your perspective. I only flipped one red catty and paid $120 for it, so maybe I'm just jealous...
And you sold it for $200, right? I only flipped two. I'm technically sitting on five SB105Es and a yellow SB105 right now (Bird bailed on one and I'm just guessing Warren wants the other), so this clearly affects me. I just don't think it's that bad.
single wally
Professional Amateur
I actually sold my used NR Z2K RI on ebay for $225 shipped! After fees/mail costs it was a lot less but still I wasn't complaining... If the Sonic is a good bat you're in business.
Chrisklol
301' Bombs
You don't read to well, do you?
ser7643
Every day I'm Shuffilin!
How do you know they didn't make a run of Catalyst for warranty return's? I'm sure they calculate the % of returns like most manufacturers and keep that many around. Whose to say they didn't burn through those due to people breaking them on purpose or rolling them and breaking them prematurely? You, I nor anyone else on this board knows if this is true or not!
They must pay the price? I'm guessing they are paying something due to the higher percentage of broken Catalyst due to people taking advantage of the system, but again no one on this board knows this for a fact.
And let me be clear, I'll be swinging Easton's this year unless the Z3k is too good to put down, I'm not a loyalist, I'm a ball player who find the best bat for me.