Tj1952 is closed back.
Very interesting that you mention the weight savings using the mesh back will not save weight which is contradicting to what the manufacturer indicates.....
Would you suspect that the tj 13.5" kip glove would weigh less than that of the 14" 4600 steerhide?
Last question, does the kip leather "dry out" faster than steerhide, thus requiring to be conditioned more often? Is this also dependent on the color of the leather used?
however while the kip leather broke in ok it went floppy on me after a full season. Someone else may not have been put off as much as I like a very stiff glove when it comes to the thumb and pinky as well as firm.
I do not. I just tried to check it out on the Vinci site, but I couldn't get to it (down on their end?). I'll check later.Assuming not in the same class as both gloves mentioned in this thread, do you have any information on the 13.5 Fortus Plus?