First i will start off by saying i am i no way shape or form considering getting one of these noe whould i ever....but a buddy of mine asked me why my glove cost so much and said that a few years ago a new/used sports shop in our area had new nokona gloves for $49 and i do remember seeing these....what is the deal with these?....its clear that they dont have the same leather and craftsmanship as the gloves we own and love any info would be interesting....