Country469
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You caught me. I'm part of the conspiracy to screw your team over. I'll flip and talk. Pm only
ASA Bat compression testing debacle... any expert chime in?
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etnstudios
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sounds like you play on really sandy fields
Country469
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This is 2019 and swinging glass comments were ***** made 10 years ago.
Now that issue is behind us, and we have others who ***** about worse stuff.
And that wild53 old fart who gets his feelings hurt all the time and cries like crazy
Find another excuse for sucking than the other guy cheated.
Now that issue is behind us, and we have others who ***** about worse stuff.
And that wild53 old fart who gets his feelings hurt all the time and cries like crazy
Find another excuse for sucking than the other guy cheated.
Bobby Buggs
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Something dont add up herr, Playing with senior bats and Hot Microcell balls and I dont see the kinda shots your talking about on the reg. That team must be flat mashers
Country469
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old guys are weak tho thats why they need to use senior bats and hot mirco cell balls
For reference Bobby, we hit BP on that same field every saturday with a combination of your BP rockets and some BP52+. We've never had a homerun over 330 or so with the 52+'s. Only the rockets have carried like that ball did.
We use a Dudley 52/300 for league night, Thunder Heat.
blakcherry329
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Never understood why they give older players, with slower reflexes, hotter equipment.
Bobby Buggs
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Im not weak yet and I hit a few over the 325 fence with senior equipment but not every game.
If This thread was about the tester ,why do you keep bringing up performance or how many frozen ropes the other team hit?
According to you, even on the possibly wrong tester your bat tested within fifty pounds of their bat, so the bats not really the problem. What happened in the game isn't an issue either unless you just want this to be about the other team cheating.
Compression testing is an inexact science, and as far off as his results were from your previous results, the two bats weren't that far apart.
The truth is no one that has answered or responded seems to know any more than the average joe about compression testing or how bats will respond either once shaved. It's an interesting topic.
I reached out to the local company that advertises shaved rolled sticks and passed along this same information apparently they polymer coat the inside now to not only get compression back to legal limit and DC41's will pass even with the inner barrel cut out as long as the polymer coating is done? 15-30 feet is exactly what you'd expect to gain performance wise on ASA bats with .52/300 as well according to the company as well. It's basically the difference between warning track power and a homerun in most cases but someone that can put one out on a 300 ft field would see shots in the 330-340 range.
I quote directly from the horses mouth "340+ is hard to do with a .52 even with shaved and rolled modern ASA bats. Senior bats and others can get there easier."
Was this bat cut? I don't know but you superstars need to stop fronting like any of you are consistently putting a ball 330+ with a .52/300 and legal ASA equipment.
Hiltz
Built for comfort
So 330' is the exact cut-off point for legal bats and 15' over that means the bat was clearly modified. And you're honestly wondering why people here are ripping on you?
I've seen guys hit balls 30' more than they normally do because it's a little cooler on that particular day.
What do you honestly expect the people shaving bats to tell you? Nah man, once we Shave it it hits the same as it did before. Shaving a non linear bat is stupid, and so is the idea that polymer coating the inside of the barrel retains compression. If it does, then it just undid all the performance you gained by shaving it. If that magic polymer existed the bat companies would make their walks thinner then just spray that goo in there.
That's like asking your drug dealer how pure his product is. If it's cut, is he going to tell you?
Pretty
Softball is cool
I have seen bats at state fail in the first day then pass the next. There is science behind it but isn’t exact as others have said. A guy i know used to keep his bats in a larger cooler before testing, dont know if it actually impacted the bat passing or not.
To the point of you saying 52/300 max out at 350 is amazingly stupid. I have been playing 13 years and I have hit more balls out with 52’s than 40 cor balls with Asa bats. I am not saying I blast 400 on the regular but I am a D player at best and hit the ball on accident for solos in the 330-350 range often enough. Nothing shaved and swing ASA Worth Harvey Legit primarily and we play with 52/300 Dudley composite or leather Evils.
To the point of you saying 52/300 max out at 350 is amazingly stupid. I have been playing 13 years and I have hit more balls out with 52’s than 40 cor balls with Asa bats. I am not saying I blast 400 on the regular but I am a D player at best and hit the ball on accident for solos in the 330-350 range often enough. Nothing shaved and swing ASA Worth Harvey Legit primarily and we play with 52/300 Dudley composite or leather Evils.
Pretty
Softball is cool
I have a 2018 Harvey that at the last test was about 1000 hits passed by 100.
4xtra
Player/Coach
that is absolutely possible
ShortYellowBus
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SammyJaxxx
Starting Player
Maybe this is the first time you ran into someone that knew how to Accurately operate the tester. That would explain why your bat tested a different number.
Hiltz
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SwingTheD206
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A bats compression can change based on weather alone. If you store your bat in the trunk of your car on a hot day it'll test differently than on a cold day. Also, of you think hitting a 52/300 ball more than 330' is abnormal then you are not in tune with reality. Go to the gym, get your weight up and/or learn to hit a 12" ball and for the love of god stop crying about rec league softball.
BigWhiffa
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guy if a bat is compression tested outside of the sweetspot it will compress differently. my est xl compression tested within 75 psi differently all over the barrell (same construction as dc41 except .5oz less endload). that est xl made jabroni church league ballers into mashers. it got called out numerous times.
whatever company you talked to are morons. there is no coating that is going to stop a sleeve less non linear to pass compression beyond possibly out of wrapper. and this "340+ is hard to do with a .52 even with shaved and rolled modern ASA bats. Senior bats and others can get there easier." is the dumbest thing i've heard. i'm def not going 340 plus on the reg but there are numerous people i play with regularly who get there without a ton of effort.
that said, if the guy tested both bats incorrectly, its possible that they had a doctored bat with the inner barrel removed. its always possible but i'm not saying anything to an LD for balls going 350. some teams are a good bat away from actually competing.
whatever company you talked to are morons. there is no coating that is going to stop a sleeve less non linear to pass compression beyond possibly out of wrapper. and this "340+ is hard to do with a .52 even with shaved and rolled modern ASA bats. Senior bats and others can get there easier." is the dumbest thing i've heard. i'm def not going 340 plus on the reg but there are numerous people i play with regularly who get there without a ton of effort.
that said, if the guy tested both bats incorrectly, its possible that they had a doctored bat with the inner barrel removed. its always possible but i'm not saying anything to an LD for balls going 350. some teams are a good bat away from actually competing.
D-ROCK13
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Compression numbers can absolutely change from one day to the next, even on the same tester and checked by the same person on the exact same spot on the bat. I had a 2014 utrip izzy psycho fail at 205 one day at 55F and got tossed, I talked to the league director and asked if I could have him retest the following week just for giggles, 75F, and it passed, closer to 240 on the same spot ( we marked it the first time ). Got another few hundred hits out of it before it split in half. Temperature can definitely alter results as well as location on bat, which is why they get tested in multiple locations along the sweetspot here. And like others have stated, each tester must be calibrated and the person testing must know the PROPER way to use the tester
Country469
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How bout he just shuts the **** up
Country469
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I've played more than 5 innings of men's league slow pitch, so yeah I can imagine just about anything now