ASA to move to 1.20BPF bat standard

pjordan4477

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I'm hearing this is picking up momentum at a state level.

MO has adopted it, using .44/275 balls or the last state tourney was this way. (so I was told by a participant)

I wonder how much of this is local leagues using NSA bats with ASA rules...
 
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I've never seen a .44/275.

Rule changes are proposed and passed in the November meetings. If and when a change is made, it will be posted here within minutes.
 
rhound50

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This has happened at a state and local level in some places, I think the chances of ASA adopting this fully is low, still as TW said wait for November to be sure.

Also FWIW the 52/300 ball is the only one that ASA has also made legal and there is a good chance that either this year or next it will be the only legal ASA ball.
 
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Yes the question on everyone's mind

Yes MO state did adopt it (the 52/300 that is), but I think it was based on the fact they wanted to see how the ball would perform with the Utrip sticks. Do I think they will do it for league play, sure if the league director is okay with doing it. Will all league directors adopt this way of thinking, probably not. All I know, is that if down the road in Jeff City a half hour away they are allowing Utrip sticks, and here in Columbia they aren't, I know where most will play next year. That being said, I have also heard the Utrip sticks haven't made that much difference with the new ball. The only thing I've heard is learn to cut the ball and you'll be okay.
 
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jasonhud said:
Yes MO state did adopt it (the 52/300 that is), but I think it was based on the fact they wanted to see how the ball would perform with the Utrip sticks. Do I think they will do it for league play, sure if the league director is okay with doing it. Will all league directors adopt this way of thinking, probably not. All I know, is that if down the road in Jeff City a half hour away they are allowing Utrip sticks, and here in Columbia they aren't, I know where most will play next year. That being said, I have also heard the Utrip sticks haven't made that much difference with the new ball. The only thing I've heard is learn to cut the ball and you'll be okay.
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yea in Rolla we use usssa bats.. the head of asa Missouri runs our league says he sees asa changing it across the board next yr.
 
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Homer5 said:
yea in Rolla we use usssa bats.. the head of asa Missouri runs our league says he sees asa changing it across the board next yr.
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His guess is as good as mine. I bet nothing changes, except for the .52/300 ball becoming the official ball and doing away with the .44/375 ball.
 
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jasonhud said:
Yes MO state did adopt it (the 52/300 that is), but I think it was based on the fact they wanted to see how the ball would perform with the Utrip sticks. Do I think they will do it for league play, sure if the league director is okay with doing it. Will all league directors adopt this way of thinking, probably not. All I know, is that if down the road in Jeff City a half hour away they are allowing Utrip sticks, and here in Columbia they aren't, I know where most will play next year. That being said, I have also heard the Utrip sticks haven't made that much difference with the new ball. The only thing I've heard is learn to cut the ball and you'll be okay.
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Columbia will use the rules set by the national ASA. Teams that are going down to Jeff City to play are doing so to play in a DH league, or simply because of cost. It has nothing to do with bat/ball rules. (Other than Field of Legends being an NSA park)
 
pjordan4477

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pjordan4477 said:
I'm hearing this is picking up momentum at a state level.

MO has adopted it, using .44/275 balls or the last state tourney was this way. (so I was told by a participant)

I wonder how much of this is local leagues using NSA bats with ASA rules...
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I meant 52/275
 
snacks

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pjordan4477 said:
I meant 52/275
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Joker0091 said:
you still sure you don't mean 52/300?
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he should be if he heard this from a participant at the state tourny......it was confirmed in this thread already........ASA MO State tourny used the 52/300 ball with utrip/nsa bats. It did not make that much of a difference, ball did bounce a little more and knuckle in the OF.

Missouri ASA and St.Louis Area ASA are for the most part separate so I don't see it changing here in the metro area. Should it? yes because more people would play asa
 
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snacks said:
he should be if he heard this from a participant at the state tourny......it was confirmed in this thread already........ASA MO State tourny used the 52/300 ball with utrip/nsa bats. It did not make that much of a difference, ball did bounce a little more and knuckle in the OF.

Missouri ASA and St.Louis Area ASA are for the most part separate so I don't see it changing here in the metro area. Should it? yes because more people would play asa
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I play ASA in Collinsville, IL and for the past three years we've used NSA bats with .44/375 Super Gold Dot Worth Balls.

I think it's the umps eliminating the banned list for ASA, which as a LD I'd prolly do the same.
 
snacks

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pjordan4477 said:
I play ASA in Collinsville, IL and for the past three years we've used NSA bats with .44/375 Super Gold Dot Worth Balls.

I think it's the umps eliminating the banned list for ASA, which as a LD I'd prolly do the same.
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Woodland park? I've played a tourny there.....
 
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I play in Georgia in an ASA leauge. We can use utrip bats and hit 44/375 balls. My other ASA leauges though still don't allow utrip bats.
 
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ASA has made no such announcement regarding the allowance of bats that are currently non-approved. The annual council is in November, so we'll all have to wait and see.

As an umpire, I would love nothing more than to have to check bats for cracks, dents, burrs and rattles and just leave it at that. The problem becomes the fact that the .52/300 ball is only approved for slow pitch, which leaves modified and fast pitch out. We've all heard stories of umpires having enough of a hard time with just one non-approved list. Do we really want two?

It'll be interesting, to say the least.
 
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I think it's all part off there testing program . Fact is ASA is looking into making the 52/300 ball maditory so if that happens bat specs should change . I think there using 1.20 bats as a general starting point to get information on how a different spec bat reacts with the 52/300 ball . From info gathered no asa or utrip bat hits the 52/300 ball even close to 98 mph so here's where the queastion really lies will they create a new 98 spec and all older modles will be obsolete or just keep the curret spec out and call it good . ASA is a business and not going to go nazi and ban a bunch of bats knowing it would loose them a ton of money and allow smaller assoc to take over .
 
pjordan4477

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I'm rooting for the change. We don't hit a ton in our league (though there are a few monster swingers), for there to be a HR issue.
 
Country35

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snacks said:
agreed, they are changing the balls instead of the bats, which is what they should have done from the very beginning.
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with asa currently testing against his theory, and utrip basically signing off on 1.2 for another large amount of time, I dont get where he can pull that info from myself. Balls are indeed the answer (no homo)
 
snacks

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Country35 said:
with asa currently testing against his theory, and utrip basically signing off on 1.2 for another large amount of time, I dont get where he can pull that info from myself. Balls are indeed the answer (no homo)
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avy says otherwise.........lol
 
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