Has anyone managed a team like this?

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Slowpitch143

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SAaucoin_13 said:
First of all, we're not buddies by any means, weren't before this post and damn sure aren't now. But, you couldn't be more wrong. I've never complained about where I hit in a lineup. Wherever I'm placed in the order, I'm going to hit there and I will not say a word to my "coach". What I stated was has occurred over my MANY years of playing ball. In fact, I've been playing softball for as long as you've been on this earth so, I'm pretty sure I can speak from REAL WORLD experience.

As for being "the person managers talk about when they say it's difficult to manage a team", I'm happy to let you talk to any that I've played for and you can see just how wrong you are.

You don't know me in the slightest and couldn't be more wrong so, don't pretend that you do. I haven't made anything personal in any of my posts but the fact that you did shows more about who you are than who I am. When you grow up and can have an adult conversation then we can circle back and debate this whole thing in a civil way.
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Break it down for me then, loser.

When you're in the top of the lineup, do your muscles become stronger? Do you swing with better technique? Do the air particles become less dense?

I'm saying, if you actually do hit the ball worse later in the lineup, it is almost certainly a mental weakness that causes you to exert less effort. Not only is this a mental weakness, it is sad and pathetic. Stop crying and just hit the ball.
 
blakcherry329

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Slowpitch143 said:
Are you a greater genius than every baseball and softball expert who has concluded that top heavy lineups are superior?

Most baseball/ softball strategies are non-falsifiable, meaning you can talk out of your ass, and it's difficult to prove whether you're right or wrong. But computer simulations can literally, easily prove that top heavy lineups will generate the most runs, because the goal is to cluster your best hitters together in the same innings.

You talk out of your ass, but you are provably wrong. You place so much faith in your gut and intuition, but your 20+ years of real world experience has taught you jack ****.
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😄😁😆You've confirmed my suspicions. You don't play any sport. Maybe pickleball or squash, but no team sport. Fantasy Baseball doesn't count, btw. You post like a youngster that's "entitled" and gets upset when his feelings aren't validated. Your last post proves my point. :rolleyes:

Numbers might not be correct game to game. You can put the lineup together any way you want, but some days the best hitters won't hit up to the back of their softball cards. It's just weird how you argue that one way is the only way to do things.
 
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blakcherry329 said:
😄😁😆You've confirmed my suspicions. You don't play any sport. Maybe pickleball or squash, but no team sport. Fantasy Baseball doesn't count, btw. You post like a youngster that's "entitled" and gets upset when his feelings aren't validated. Your last post proves my point. :rolleyes:

Numbers might not be correct game to game. You can put the lineup together any way you want, but some days the best hitters won't hit up to the back of their softball cards. It's just weird how you argue that one way is the only way to do things.
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Here's a new quote you should use from now on: "Ignorance is undefeated." The moron who refuses to keep track of results will forever live in blissful ignorance.
 
blakcherry329

blakcherry329

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There's lots of ways to be ignorant. ;)

My mother used to say: Common sense is not so common. You're proof of that.
Being good at math doesn't make you smarter than people that actually play the game.
 
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SAaucoin_13

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Slowpitch143 said:
Break it down for me then, loser.

When you're in the top of the lineup, do your muscles become stronger? Do you swing with better technique? Do the air particles become less dense?

I'm saying, if you actually do hit the ball worse later in the lineup, it is almost certainly a mental weakness that causes you to exert less effort. Not only is this a mental weakness, it is sad and pathetic. Stop crying and just hit the ball.
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And here we go again, personal attacks. Again, when you grow up and are ready to have an adult conversation, let me know. Otherwise, p@(# off!
 
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Slowpitch143

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SAaucoin_13 said:
And here we go again, personal attacks. Again, when you grow up and are ready to have an adult conversation, let me know. Otherwise, p@(# off!
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Buddy, you made the insane claim that you magically hit a softball harder when you are early in the lineup. If someone told me that IRL, I would immediately classify you as an idiot. Hit the ****ing ball and stop crying.
 
blakcherry329

blakcherry329

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Slowpitch143 said:
Buddy, you made the insane claim that you magically hit a softball harder when you are early in the lineup. If someone told me that IRL, I would immediately classify you as an idiot. Hit the ****ing ball and stop crying.
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As opposed to the insane claim that making a lineup strictly by the stats is the ONLY way to make a successful lineup. :rolleyes:
Wow, you are definitely Gen Z. Name calling when you don't get your way. Very immature. Good luck with your Fantasy Baseball.
 
etnstudios

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Hitting better is not the same as hitting harder. There are more variables that go into where you hit in a lineup. If you are in the top of the lineup and it's rolling, the fielders may be worn down from chasing gappers hit by the other batters. It can play to your advantage to alternate between your better and worse hitters rather than drop them to the bottom and give away easy innings. This ain't baseball.
 
jbo911

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I thought I'd answered this already, but it must've been a different thread, same topic.

My better hitters instantly returned to firm when I moved them back to the top of the lineup if anyone's curious.

This game is 100% mental. If we took it as seriously as we think we do, we might actually hit 600. Most pitchers I face put it on a tee if you have any plate discipline, and even then I don't just try for a single all the time.

I'd rather be lucky than good is a way to seem humble after we get lucky. Nobody sets they're lineup on it. You want your best hitters hitting most often, and that might just be your smartest hitters.

As for me personally, it doesn't effect my ba so it helps the team if it does effect everyone else. Everybody knows someone that can't lead off. It's exactly the same thing, and I approach last like I'm leading off since the leadoff is after me. It helps me say just get on instead of shoot for that gap, but I'm too slow to be the real leadoff.
 
D-ROCK13

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SBF is still alive with the stupidity and nonsense 🤣 I needed a good laugh. but in all seriousness, most people in this thread are correct, if you've played enough slowpitch you can make a line up without stats just by watching people play a little. And the op bashing people in this thread is hilarious, he must not know everyone on sbf hits 500 ft moon shots with wooden bats and fields 100 percent with their eyes closed, bare handed. come on now pay attention 🤣
 
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jbo911 said:
I've done all of the batting orders listed, as well as a rolling order where the guy next up after who ended the previous game is this game's lead off.

The only one I will never do again is the purely based off stats version. The dudes batting last never dug their way out. Anytime slumping early in the season started there the whole season. Dudes I've played with for years that were previously good hitters. This is why I volunteer to bat last, and when I went back to a traditional lineup those dudes who had been at the bottom returned to form. The guys I put them in front of has some grumbles, but if I'm coaching I don't listen to anyone else. You want to coach, coach, otherwise keep it to yourself.
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jbo911 said:
I thought I'd answered this already, but it must've been a different thread, same topic.

My better hitters instantly returned to firm when I moved them back to the top of the lineup if anyone's curious.

This game is 100% mental. If we took it as seriously as we think we do, we might actually hit 600. Most pitchers I face put it on a tee if you have any plate discipline, and even then I don't just try for a single all the time.

I'd rather be lucky than good is a way to seem humble after we get lucky. Nobody sets they're lineup on it. You want your best hitters hitting most often, and that might just be your smartest hitters.

As for me personally, it doesn't effect my ba so it helps the team if it does effect everyone else. Everybody knows someone that can't lead off. It's exactly the same thing, and I approach last like I'm leading off since the leadoff is after me. It helps me say just get on instead of shoot for that gap, but I'm too slow to be the real leadoff.
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You did lol
 
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Slowpitch143

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jbo911 said:
I thought I'd answered this already, but it must've been a different thread, same topic.

My better hitters instantly returned to firm when I moved them back to the top of the lineup if anyone's curious.

This game is 100% mental. If we took it as seriously as we think we do, we might actually hit 600. Most pitchers I face put it on a tee if you have any plate discipline, and even then I don't just try for a single all the time.

I'd rather be lucky than good is a way to seem humble after we get lucky. Nobody sets they're lineup on it. You want your best hitters hitting most often, and that might just be your smartest hitters.

As for me personally, it doesn't effect my ba so it helps the team if it does effect everyone else. Everybody knows someone that can't lead off. It's exactly the same thing, and I approach last like I'm leading off since the leadoff is after me. It helps me say just get on instead of shoot for that gap, but I'm too slow to be the real leadoff.
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Dude, you're probably too stupid to realize it, but you're literally making the exact same point I am.

You're making the case that batting early is a psychological advantage that helps some people hit better.

SAaucoin_13 raised his hand and admitted that he lacks the mental confidence to perform well unless he is given the external validation and prestige of an early batting position.

Here's the problem: Somebody has to bat last. Selfishly, SAaucoin_13 wants the psychological advantages all to himself. It doesn't cross his mind that his other teammates (who are probably better than him) will have to deal with the same mental issues he does.

This supports my ultimate conclusion: Let the mentally weak players bat first. They need extra validation and encouragement to hit a softball into the outfield. Those who are mentally strong should bat last, because they can hit a ****ing softball without whining and crying about their batting order.
 
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Slowpitch143

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jbo911 said:
The dudes batting last never dug their way out. Dudes I've played with for years that were previously good hitters. This is why I volunteer to bat last, and when I went back to a traditional lineup those dudes who had been at the bottom returned to form. The guys I put them in front of has some grumbles, but if I'm coaching I don't listen to anyone else. You want to coach, coach, otherwise keep it to yourself.
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Here's what's hilarious to me. Jbo911 admits that batting early is a psychological advantage. So he intentionally gives that advantage to his friends that he's been playing with for years.

Meanwhile, as a manager, he doesn't give a **** that his better hitters might suffer from the exact same mental problems when they are moved down to the bottom.

You can't magically let everyone bat first. So selfishly, like a douchebag, he caters to his friends, while forcing objectively better hitters to bat last.

This is what people mean when they say their manager is an idiot who plays politics with the batting order. You give every advantage to your friends, let your best hitters suffer the bottom, and meanwhile the whole team languishes because of the manager's incompetence.
 
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SAaucoin_13

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Slowpitch143 said:
Dude, you're probably too stupid to realize it, but you're literally making the exact same point I am.

You're making the case that batting early is a psychological advantage that helps some people hit better.

SAaucoin_13 raised his hand and admitted that he lacks the mental confidence to perform well unless he is given the external validation and prestige of an early batting position.

Here's the problem: Somebody has to bat last. Selfishly, SAaucoin_13 wants the psychological advantages all to himself. It doesn't cross his mind that his other teammates (who are probably better than him) will have to deal with the same mental issues he does.

This supports my ultimate conclusion: Let the mentally weak players bat first. They need extra validation and encouragement to hit a softball into the outfield. Those who are mentally strong should bat last, because they can hit a ****ing softball without whining and crying about their batting order.
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Direct quote from my 1st post here when this was still just a friendly debate, before you decided to get personal because people didn't agree with your candy a$$ that this was the "perfect way" to set a line up.
" I don't ask for any of my coaches to hit me in a certain spot in the order and I don't care/pout when I'm not at the top. But, when I'm in the lineup at 1-3, my run production is higher. My average may not reflect that but my RBI's do. Why? No idea. I don't approach at bats any different regardless of where I'm at in the order. "

Damn son, don't come on a softball page asking for feedback if all you're going to do is throw a temper tantrum when people disagree with you.
 
Amateroy321

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jbo911 said:
I've done all of the batting orders listed, as well as a rolling order where the guy next up after who ended the previous game is this game's lead off.

The only one I will never do again is the purely based off stats version. The dudes batting last never dug their way out. Anytime slumping early in the season started there the whole season. Dudes I've played with for years that were previously good hitters. This is why I volunteer to bat last, and when I went back to a traditional lineup those dudes who had been at the bottom returned to form. The guys I put them in front of has some grumbles, but if I'm coaching I don't listen to anyone else. You want to coach, coach, otherwise keep it to yourself.
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thanks for the write up.. what makes a better coach is someone who follows his instinct.
 
jbo911

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SAaucoin_13 said:
Direct quote from my 1st post here when this was still just a friendly debate, before you decided to get personal because people didn't agree with your candy a$$ that this was the "perfect way" to set a line up.
" I don't ask for any of my coaches to hit me in a certain spot in the order and I don't care/pout when I'm not at the top. But, when I'm in the lineup at 1-3, my run production is higher. My average may not reflect that but my RBI's do. Why? No idea. I don't approach at bats any different regardless of where I'm at in the order. "

Damn son, don't come on a softball page asking for feedback if all you're going to do is throw a temper tantrum when people disagree with you.
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He's a dime store troll.
 
jbo911

jbo911

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Slowpitch143 said:
Dude, you're probably too stupid to realize it, but you're literally making the exact same point I am.

You're making the case that batting early is a psychological advantage that helps some people hit better.

SAaucoin_13 raised his hand and admitted that he lacks the mental confidence to perform well unless he is given the external validation and prestige of an early batting position.

Here's the problem: Somebody has to bat last. Selfishly, SAaucoin_13 wants the psychological advantages all to himself. It doesn't cross his mind that his other teammates (who are probably better than him) will have to deal with the same mental issues he does.

This supports my ultimate conclusion: Let the mentally weak players bat first. They need extra validation and encouragement to hit a softball into the outfield. Those who are mentally strong should bat last, because they can hit a ****ing softball without whining and crying about their batting order.
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You're not even smart enough to realize that a lineup has a middle.
 
SammyJaxxx

SammyJaxxx

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Everybody is forgetting the real truth in a setting a lineup
1) The prima donnas go at the top of the lineup so they don't complain.
2) You bat yourself last so that people don't complain.
3) You bat your good friends a little bit higher than they deserve to bat.
4) You bat the guys that haven't paid yet at the bottom just in front of you.
5) You change it all around when people don't show up.

The rest of this is just an academic exercise.
 
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