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swampdonkey1

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Are non-linear barrels not approved for USSSA/NSA? None of the non-linear model bats I can think of are approved for USSSA/NSA. Even the Miken/Worth ASA bats (EST/Platinum/DC41) with non-linear 4 piece designs had to be modified to 2 piece to get USSSA/NSA approval...

I'm assuming this is why Carl has not been able to make a USSSA approved bat and now paired with Pure Sports to release a Pure Sports bat with a F.I.B.?
 
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swampdonkey1

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Are you confirming that non-linear bats are only approved for ASA? I'm trying my best to find something useful out of your b.s. comments...
 
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swampdonkey1

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I see nothing on USSSA.com; slowpitch; rules/legal information; bat, ball,and equipment information; about non-linear barrels not being approved for USSSA.

You have a sad life if you thinking intentionally running people away from this site is fun.
 
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jbo911

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swampdonkey1 said:
I see nothing on USSSA.com; slowpitch; rules/legal information; bat, ball,and equipment information; about non-linear barrels not being approved for USSSA.

You have a sad life if you thinking intentionally running people away from this site is fun.
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There were some allegedly non-linear UTrip Demarinis over the past few years, but I was not able to get any type of confirmation of their existence from UTrip. I emailed my state director and was referred up the chain, and they said that there were no pre-loading exceptions for the UTrip compression even though Demarini reps had claimed there would be.

Carl pissed off UTrip and that's why his bats aren't legal. Also why he's a clown.
 
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swampdonkey1

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It just seems odd that most of the top ASA bats are non-linear but you dont find any non-linear bats in USSSA... I wonder if that's something that will change in the future or not
 
Jusrah99

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swampdonkey1 said:
Are non-linear barrels not approved for USSSA/NSA? None of the non-linear model bats I can think of are approved for USSSA/NSA. Even the Miken/Worth ASA bats (EST/Platinum/DC41) with non-linear 4 piece designs had to be modified to 2 piece to get USSSA/NSA approval...

I'm assuming this is why Carl has not been able to make a USSSA approved bat and now paired with Pure Sports to release a Pure Sports bat with a F.I.B.?
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I don't think the Miken/Worth Utrip line was "modified" from what it was because they were already performing well.

I think they saw the difference in performance with inner barrel tech and made the adjustments to compete in the ASA market...which i'm glad they did, cause theyre ASA stuff is amazing...

I'm still gaming a red knob DC...i have no need to get something else because its fiya!!!
 
MarlSrSoftball

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We are an ASA Senior league and out BD just voted to ban all non-linear bats in our league. Means everyone just about has to buy new bats if they want to play. STUPID.
 
johnny fitz

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It has to do with wall compression. Most usssa is played with 44s that compress the bat/inner wall tech much differently than a 52 does. I can assure you that an Asa flipper with 44s would not pass.

We will see what Carl and pure do with their bats... I am skeptical at best about this partnership being a long term thing. How much hotter do people want utrip bats to be? There’s a limit for a reason.
 
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I'm not aware of any USSSA outside of Stadium that is played with 44s. Classic M's are a .40 and the Classic + are 52s. At Worlds and Major tournaments the ball was a Dudley ZN Classic M.
 
jbo911

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EAJuggalo said:
I'm not aware of any USSSA outside of Stadium that is played with 44s. Classic M's are a .40 and the Classic + are 52s. At Worlds and Major tournaments the ball was a Dudley ZN Classic M.
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The stadium ball isn't a 44 either. He must be thinking of wsl or NSA.
 
jbo911

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Doug said:
There are some dual-stamp Combats that are non-linear ("275"). Other than that, I believe that non-linear USSSA bats are rare.
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They have the peds but I wouldn't call them non linear because they pass the utrip compression test easily with no different pre loading.
 
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ASA says they are non-linear
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ASA can call them Laverne and Shirley for all I care, and I didn't say they weren't. I didn't create the category or define the term. They did. What I'm saying is don't expect then to act like a non linear bat because they don't. I hit then only with harder balls and they always passed with the standard pre load, and then I did it to a teammate who is still using it with those same results. The other nl bats would've failed out of the wrapper or soon thereafter.
 
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johnny fitz

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EAJuggalo said:
I'm not aware of any USSSA outside of Stadium that is played with 44s. Classic M's are a .40 and the Classic + are 52s. At Worlds and Major tournaments the ball was a Dudley ZN Classic M.
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Usssa in ny and ct is only the zn so I should have said most usssa is played with 40s.
 
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