Rawlings HOH Pro

[tbarb]

I've been reading several glove threads and see the term HOH and HOH Pro used as if they are different gloves. (HOH Pro apparently being stiffer as new and longer lasting as to form than HOH.) (Not asking about colors and how they enter the stiff equation.) Is HOH Pro an older leather or previously made glove before current times or referencing the "PRO" in any part of the printed glove model on a glove?
I'm just getting to like a PP that I bought earlier this year and expect it to become too floppy at some point next year and might like to try a HOH Pro if they are different that the HOH's. (Like very stiff pinky and thumbs). I could have totally missed something on the Rawlings glove builder....

 

[NYC]

I've been reading several glove threads and see the term HOH and HOH Pro used as if they are different gloves. (HOH Pro apparently being stiffer as new and longer lasting as to form than HOH.) (Not asking about colors and how they enter the stiff equation.) Is HOH Pro an older leather or previously made glove before current times or referencing the "PRO" in any part of the printed glove model on a glove?
I'm just getting to like a PP that I bought earlier this year and expect it to become too floppy at some point next year and might like to try a HOH Pro if they are different that the HOH's. (Like very stiff pinky and thumbs). I could have totally missed something on the Rawlings glove builder....

https://www.rawlings.com/gloves/pro-stock-gloves/

I think you're referring to pro stock? They give these gloves out to players during spring training, it says pro at the begininning of every HOH, but it says pro at the beginning and at the end of the pro stocks.

 

[tbarb]

Ah, thanks. Probably out of my reach....

 

[NYC]

Ah, thanks. Probably out of my reach....

Ehh some of the pro stocks are 260-360.

 

[davisrelacing]

Rawlings cuts all HOH leather from the same hides. Pro issue glove pieces come from the heart of the hide (rump area) near the spine. That is the only difference. Pro issue leather is not made from special select hides, all HOH leather is high quality.
Dan

 

[Party mafia]

Rawlings cuts all HOH leather from the same hides. Pro issue glove pieces come from the heart of the hide (rump area) near the spine. That is the only difference. Pro issue leather is not made from special select hides, all HOH leather is high quality.
Dan

How come some HOH has the dual core? What does the dual core mean? Does the dual core glove leather is lesser quality than a reg. HOH leather?

 

[davisrelacing]

How come some HOH has the dual core? What does the dual core mean? Does the dual core glove leather is lesser quality than a reg. HOH leather?

Dual Core Technology is just extra leather pieces inside the glove to influence break points, pocket size/shape, etc.
Dual Core leather (Featherlite) is a type of leather from Horween Leather Co.

 

[Jchap]

Rawlings cuts all HOH leather from the same hides.

Dan, do you mean within the same kind of HOH leather they cut the PRO and retail versions from the same hide? You don't mean Jtan, Tan Horween, featherlite, etc don't all come from the same hide, correct?

 

[davisrelacing]

Dan, do you mean within the same kind of HOH leather they cut the PRO and retail versions from the same hide? You don't mean Jtan, Tan Horween, featherlite, etc don't all come from the same hide, correct?

No, there are hides from each respective leather line. For instance, all JTan black HOH leather for gloves would come from one hide. Alll Horween tan would come from one hide. All Pro Preferred kip camel would come from one hide. Featherlite who cares?

 

[davisrelacing]

So you can get retail, custom, and pro issue glove leather from one hide

 

[Swinging Bunt]

But ask yourself if all parts of the same hide are equal?

 

[NYC]

But ask yourself if all parts of the same hide are equal?

The area around the spine is the thickest.

 

[beeblebobble]

Somebody, maybe Dan? Posted on IG that the rump was the part used for pro gloves.

 

[davisrelacing]

But ask yourself if all parts of the same hide are equal?

No, the belly parts of the hide are used for binding, interior parts, etc. (zone 3)
Webs and pocket pieces come from the spine (zone 1)
Shell parts from the middle (zone 2)

 

[bigmac25]

isnt the hybrid hoh and PP line called something with 'pro' in it? maybe thats confusing OP as well?

 

[Swinging Bunt]

The new Pro Label line. Periodic scheduled releases of build options currently unavailable to the general public (only to pros). Come to think of it, it sounds like a glorified quarterly RGGC (instead of monthly). I do like these more than the regular RGGC (I prefer the single release power punch several months apart over the mediocre monthly pair).

 

[beeblebobble]

The new Pro Label line. Periodic scheduled releases of build options currently unavailable to the general public (only to pros). Come to think of it, it sounds like a glorified quarterly RGGC (instead of monthly). I do like these more than the regular RGGC (I prefer the single release power punch several months apart over the mediocre monthly pair).

Something to compete with "Aso's Lab?"

 

[Swinging Bunt]

Something to compete with "Aso's Lab?"

Maybe. Aso's Lab is more experimental and can only be purchased directly from Wilson (they even let you know that they want feedback when you order). Pro Labels already have been tested by pros and will be sold by select retailers. And Aso's Labs are more limited in quantity (not sure by how much).

 

[beeblebobble]

Maybe. Aso's Lab is more experimental and can only be purchased directly from Wilson (they even let you know that they want feedback when you order). Pro Labels already have been tested by pros and will be sold by select retailers. And Aso's Labs are more limited in quantity (not sure by how much).

Yeah they definitely don't make many of the Aso Labs, But the colored superskin and the 1716T were in Pro's hands before they were sold in the Lab, but I get your point. I ordered a 1716T the day of release and you couldn't add more than 59 to your cart, so I figured it's right around 60 units, at least for that model.

 

[tbarb]

The new Pro Label line. Periodic scheduled releases of build options currently unavailable to the general public (only to pros). Come to think of it, it sounds like a glorified quarterly RGGC (instead of monthly). I do like these more than the regular RGGC (I prefer the single release power punch several months apart over the mediocre monthly pair).

Regarding those RGGC's and H's: What actually is "Opti-core? And what's the "European leather" on the RGG's - a kip leather?

Thanks,

 

[Blacksmith]

But ask yourself if all parts of the same hide are equal?

No we do a lot of leather work(not gloves) and we buy whole hides from the best distributors in the US. Even then their can be variations from one end of a hide to the other.

 

[Wally Gator]

Just did a search and this thread is the closest to my Pro Issue question and concern for how "Pro Issue" appears to be frequently misused. A Rawlings glove or mitt that ends in PRO is a leftover Spring Training model that was made on the retail line. Same leather and same builders. A Pro Issue glove is made from leather cut from a specific area of the hide and is made by a specific worker like the original Opti-core line was advertised as made by one person. Anything to correct or add in regards to Rawlings Pro Issued gloves or mitts?