Any We had an awesome Ump last night

[baseman]

His strike zone was correct and consistant. He called the rules correctly. He was fair for both teams and aloud us to contest calls (if they were elligable to be contested). He did call something i had never heard of though, no players on base and the catcher through the ball to the third baseman after strike 2 and he gave the batter an extra ball (which caused him to walk). this was a new one to me and wondered if anyone else had seen this before.

 

[MrEye]

It's probably a league rule, which keeps the games moving. BUT, if you haven't seen it before it doesn't seem to be enforced. I think a reminder before the game that he's one of the few that enforces it would have been cool.

 

[NCASAUmp]

It's probably a league rule, which keeps the games moving. BUT, if you haven't seen it before it doesn't seem to be enforced. I think a reminder before the game that he's one of the few that enforces it would have been cool.

Nope, it's not a league rule. If this is ASA...

ASA 6-6-B: The catcher shall return the ball directly to the pitcher after each pitch, except after a strikeout.
EFFECT 6-B: A ball on the batter.
EXCEPTION: Does not apply with a runner(s) on base or the batter becoming a batter-runner.

Though looking at this rule, I'm wondering if the exception only applies to slow pitch with stealing.

Irish or BretMan, can you confirm that? Oldest book I have handy at work is 2007.

 

[MrEye]

Nope, it's not a league rule. If this is ASA...

Oops, missed the "after 2 strikes" in the OP. Why the hell would the catcher do that?

 

[NCASAUmp]

Oops, missed the "after 2 strikes" in the OP. Why the hell would the catcher do that?

Run down the clock?

 

[MrEye]

Run down the clock?

Bingo. I don't think that way because I've never played in nor umped any timed games.

 

[chiefgator]

Oops, missed the "after 2 strikes" in the OP. Why the hell would the catcher do that?

Maybe he lost track of the count and thought it was a Strike Out. Then threw the ball to the fielder to "throw it around"...

 

[Fin09]

Do you use a 3-2 count in this league? If so, the rule says "except after a strikeout", meaning it's ok to throw it around after a k. If league "speed up" rules prohibit this, then that's different.

 

[irishmafia]

Nope, it's not a league rule. If this is ASA...



Though looking at this rule, I'm wondering if the exception only applies to slow pitch with stealing.

Irish or BretMan, can you confirm that? Oldest book I have handy at work is 2007.

My oldest book is 1936....

It is a standard rule that has been around for quite a few years. It is basically a delay of game.

 

[NCASAUmp]

My oldest book is 1936....

It is a standard rule that has been around for quite a few years. It is basically a delay of game.

Yeah, I get that part, but was the "does not apply with a runner(s) on base" portion in the book before stealing was added? I can't imagine what reason a catcher in the year 2000 would have had for throwing to another fielder.

Basically, I'm wondering if this is an editorial oversight.

 

[baseman]

Do you use a 3-2 count in this league? If so, the rule says "except after a strikeout", meaning it's ok to throw it around after a k. If league "speed up" rules prohibit this, then that's different.

Nope no 3-2 count. i imagine these umps are asa umps but it through me for a loop was all thanks for the responses guys.

 

[ImminentDanger]

Yeah, I get that part, but was the "does not apply with a runner(s) on base" portion in the book before stealing was added? I can't imagine what reason a catcher in the year 2000 would have had for throwing to another fielder.

Basically, I'm wondering if this is an editorial oversight.

NCASAUmp - My 1994 Rulebook does not include that phrase - I suspect you are correct that it was intended to only apply to a League with Stealing--- As you say, it doesn't seem to make sense otherwise...

%%%

 

[andy-rockstar]

The umps up here are good. They tend to focus on where a pitch lands rather than actual strike zone crossing, but they're consistant otherwise.

 

[daddy_ja]

 

[NCASAUmp]

Wish I had that flag to throw at coaches during some of my games...