A couple things... The 2014 ASA Z > than any previous ASA Z after 500 swings. Secondly, I know 3 people that were told November for the utrip and they have already received them. TPS hasn't been giving accurate info on the utrip. All were desirable weights and all were received in the last couple weeks including last Friday. As far which is gonna move quicker, the utrip if your able to get it. Not a lot of people have the new ASA or have put enough swings to tell just how good they are. 6 months from now I would've said ASA, just cause it will reach a point where they become high in demand and hard to find.