1 out, runners on 1st and 3rd. Fly ball caught, runner on 3rd tags up, runner on 1st doesn't. Runner crosses home before throw comes to 1st to double up the guy that didn't tag. This is a timing play, not a force, so run scores, correct?
This is a timing play, not a force, so run scores, correct?
Ask the players that debate this where is the force? The runner on first was not forced to go to 2nd! No force out!I do like hugs
I had seen this play many times. The other team argued, relentlessly....even after the State UIC came over and backed up the call....I spoke about it to a few other guys last night, who also said it's a force play....seems to be more confusion on this than any other situation. Appreciate the response! I'll just direct them here next time
I do like hugs
I had seen this play many times. The other team argued, relentlessly....even after the State UIC came over and backed up the call....I spoke about it to a few other guys last night, who also said it's a force play....seems to be more confusion on this than any other situation. Appreciate the response! I'll just direct them here next time
The runner is out when a fielder touches first base while in possession of the ball, not just by being tagged out. Isn't that the definition of a force out?It is not a force out. What is forcing him to go anywhere?
The runner is out when a fielder touches first base while in possession of the ball, not just by being tagged out. Isn't that the definition of a force out?
Interesting, I wouldn't have ever thought of it like that, glad I stumbled across this thread.No it is not. The USSSA rule book is available on their website for anyone to read. Since they secured it and you can't copy/paste anymore.
The runner is out when a fielder touches first base while in possession of the ball, not just by being tagged out. Isn't that the definition of a force out?
Think of it this way: You are never forced to go backwards - only forwards.
If a player is running bases and misses a base, after the play is over you throw the ball to the base they missed and step on it for appeal for the out. You don't tag the runner. Is that also a force out in your book?
Not a force, but the run wouldn't count in this scenario right?
Yes, run scoredSo the call that was made was that the run did score?
Good call, Blue!Yes, run scored