USSSA Run scores?
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NCASAUmp
Un-Retired
The fact that you know the exact terminology to the correct answer makes me want to hug you.
I do like hugs
I had seen this play many times. The other team argued, relentlessly....even after the State UIC came over and backed up the call....I spoke about it to a few other guys last night, who also said it's a force play....seems to be more confusion on this than any other situation. Appreciate the response! I'll just direct them here next time
I had seen this play many times. The other team argued, relentlessly....even after the State UIC came over and backed up the call....I spoke about it to a few other guys last night, who also said it's a force play....seems to be more confusion on this than any other situation. Appreciate the response! I'll just direct them here next time
lb16
the natural
Ask the players that debate this where is the force? The runner on first was not forced to go to 2nd! No force out!I do like hugs
I had seen this play many times. The other team argued, relentlessly....even after the State UIC came over and backed up the call....I spoke about it to a few other guys last night, who also said it's a force play....seems to be more confusion on this than any other situation. Appreciate the response! I'll just direct them here next time
NCASAUmp
Un-Retired
I do like hugs
I had seen this play many times. The other team argued, relentlessly....even after the State UIC came over and backed up the call....I spoke about it to a few other guys last night, who also said it's a force play....seems to be more confusion on this than any other situation. Appreciate the response! I'll just direct them here next time
So the call that was made was that the run did score?
Maybe I interpreted it differently, but the runner was out at 1st because they did not tag on the fly out, not 2nd base trying to advance on a tag up. Is this still a 'timing' play? My inclination would be it's a 'force' out at 1st.
Similar to appealing whether a runner tagged up or left early.
Interested in learning more.
Similar to appealing whether a runner tagged up or left early.
Interested in learning more.
RustyShakleford
Well-Known Member
It is not a force out. What is forcing him to go anywhere?
The runner is out when a fielder touches first base while in possession of the ball, not just by being tagged out. Isn't that the definition of a force out?
RustyShakleford
Well-Known Member
No it is not. The USSSA rule book is available on their website for anyone to read. Since they secured it and you can't copy/paste anymore.
Interesting, I wouldn't have ever thought of it like that, glad I stumbled across this thread.
It brings so many hypothetical questions up.
EdFred
every day I'm shovelin'
Think of it this way: You are never forced to go backwards - only forwards.
If a player is running bases and misses a base, after the play is over you throw the ball to the base they missed and step on it for appeal for the out. You don't tag the runner. Is that also a force out in your book?
RustyShakleford
Well-Known Member
How else would you think of it?
Not a force, but the run wouldn't count in this scenario right?
RustyShakleford
Well-Known Member
Still a timing play, run would count
NCASAUmp
Un-Retired
This is nothing more than just a live ball appeal. It only looks like a force out, as the defense isn't verbalizing what they're appealing because it's so obvious to everyone else involved.
Bottom line - this is NOT a force out, it's nothing more than just a race back to the base.
Yes, run scored
NCASAUmp
Un-Retired
Good call, Blue!
