tomdonohue1
Vandelay Industries
I'm struggling to think back of when composite bats that didn't require a break-in period started being sold. Can anyone help me with that?
Agree, some seem to have more pop from day one than others but ultimately the more hits the better they get for the most part except the Easton Ghost Line bats! Swing one to swing 1k its the same.
The first one I remember was the 2016 Miken Freak 12. Was using a 2014 Easton L5 to that point. What a difference...
Yes and no. It has a 750psi threshold, which means it takes 550psi less than a regular non linear bat to compress one inch. If compared to an older linear bat, that’s about half the amount of force to bend the barrel back. The bat is meant to help slow swing speeds.The OG Ghost was one of the worst ASA bats I've ever tried. No pop, and it had a horrible sound and feel. The bat felt like it was breaking on every swing.
I remember the 2013 Easton line was touted that you could game it from swing 1.
They weren't too far off.
Some composite bats (Worth/Miken especially) have always been hot out of the wrapper. Even before 2016 you could get stuff like DC41s, Psychos, Titans, etc that would spit fire right away.
After 2017 it seemed like every bat from every company started out hot... and durability went way downhill.
I think the question should be: "when did 'hot out of the wrapper' marketing begin?"
IDK. Any Eastons before about 2018 were dead AF out of the wrapper, and stayed that way for a couple thousand swings.
Most of the Eastons around 2013 would be absolute logs out the wrapper, show signs of life after 1500 swings, go absolutely red hot NUCLEAR for about 150 more swings, then break. You needed to use hard balls in cold weather to break those bats in.
^^^ true.. forgot about these as well as the st98's, but I don't think they were advertised as hot outa wrap.We took plenty of 100w an 100h's out of the wrapper and couldn't keep them in the park. And I KNOW your swing is much better than mine.
Maybe they were released in 2012, now that I think about it. It was the model #SP12SY100W
We took plenty of 100w an 100h's out of the wrapper and couldn't keep them in the park. And I KNOW your swing is much better than mine.
Maybe they were released in 2012, now that I think about it. It was the model #SP12SY100W
I don't think anything is truly "hot" out of the wrapper. Every bat needs a break in to me. Yes. Bats 100% were "game usable" out of the wrapper, but weren't to their true potential.
Its like this . . . would you rather have a 500 cut Easton LV1, or a NiW Freak12 to use for a HR derby ?
08 and 09 Helmers were trash. Then they got stupid for 200 swings with a 1" sweet spot, then they'd snap. But if you got one, it'd go a long ways.You know, I never swung that year Wegman or Helmer.
I mean, I agree with you that not ALL Eastons were dead clunkers out of the wrapper. Some were definitely better than others. Honestly, their worst stuff was pre-220 stamp. Some of those bats were absolute logs. SCN12BH, and SCN10BH. Good lord those were bad.
I still have the OG USSSA 220 Salvo (silver/yellow). That bat started a little rough, but has become a monster. Extremely durable, and back in 2013 I paid $69.99 shipped for it on closeout. The bat had 0 popularity.
Most of my Eastons are 2014-17.
I've had 5 or 6 boogers. 2 OGs and the rest were re-issue. Sure, they were damn good out of the wrapper, but put 500 swings on one and then we can discuss hot.Are we talking every bat? Because I'm going 240 bats for that. The sb34 was hot out of the wrapper, till it was recertified in the form of the sb103. The booger was pretty hot out of the wrapper. Probably the only bat I ever hit one out with in the first few swings.
I'd rather say what was the first hot out of the wrapper for each brand. That would be interesting.
Easton fire flex
Anarchy 240s
Etc
I have a 100SV with like 1k hits, and most are with super blue dots off a tee. Still is nowhere near game ready compared to my Fab4. I wish I had a compression tester to see what the SV100 is at.
Are we talking every bat? Because I'm going 240 bats for that. The sb34 was hot out of the wrapper, till it was recertified in the form of the sb103. The booger was pretty hot out of the wrapper. Probably the only bat I ever hit one out with in the first few swings.
I'd rather say what was the first hot out of the wrapper for each brand. That would be interesting.
Easton fire flex
Anarchy 240s
Etc
Exactly, and their 220s were coming out of the wrapper at 325. They were my first example of 240s aren't necessarily less hot.I've used 4 Anarchy 240s this year. 0 BP swings on any of them. Right out of the wrapper and into games. They all tested at 270 or less right away. These are NOT cold weather bats. Good performers instantly.
Anarchy's ASA/USA bats are freaking insane as well. I'd put them with any other brand on the market, and they're WAY cheaper than most, especially if you buy during the offseason when Anarchies are $99.
I remember the 2013 Easton line was touted that you could game it from swing 1.
They weren't too far off.
I think the question should be: "when did 'hot out of the wrapper' marketing begin?"
My SV100 tests at about 250 now. It has been used off and on for 10 years, on all manners of balls and weather. One of the most durable bats I've ever seen.