16" glove worlds
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blakcherry329
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need a link to this, please
stang7222
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I can't help myself feeling the same way. We all like to launch bombs, but this highlights that the other parts of if the game are still fun and exciting.
I'm feeling the same way watching USA supers.
Even though the conference super powers are even more condensed, there's a non conference team in the semis against resmondo.
I also can't help but wonder if playing sixteen inch before this helped them (resmondo) to adjust to a more base hitting approach.
Even though the conference super powers are even more condensed, there's a non conference team in the semis against resmondo.
I also can't help but wonder if playing sixteen inch before this helped them (resmondo) to adjust to a more base hitting approach.
stang7222
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This game was better than USSSA major but still tons or HRs. 16 is just too many.
Also, I think Yates stepped in front of the plate at least twice. Tough to tell from that angle.
Lots of good line drivethhere but16" was definitely more entertaining.
ilyk2win
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I saw one of the 2 you were referencing. The foot must be entirely in front of the plate; meaning if even the edge of the heel is on the line of the box he's good. The one I saw he was good. Now stepping ON the plate is totally different than in front of.
The way people complain about 52s bouncing, I thought for sure we'd see several black eyes. Especially on a dirt field!
I can't say I'd ever call stepping in front of the plate unless they were swinging at a ball in the opposite batter's box. I just wouldn't remember to look.
TWmccoy
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USA softball in general is just a better product than USSSA. Using .52 300 balls reduces the exit velocity greatly off the bat, and makes the game way more defensively oriented. You don't have every guy on the team hitting bombs or ripping liners through the IF that no one has time to react to.
Frankly, I enjoy playing USA league now more than USSSA tournies, for the reasons I just stated. You actually have to be a good hitter and be able to place the ball.
I wish all softball was played with .52 300 balls.
ilyk2win
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I've played ASA/USA my whole life, and exclusively for the first 16-18 years I played; also have umpired it for close to a decade now. That being said, I'd rather play USSSA and if/when I play that's what I play. As a pitcher, it is less restrictive and far less complaining from batters, although there is still plenty of complaining about pitches/antics - just less than USA. Also, I prefer 30oz bats, and USA simply doesn't have them and the few that are around don't seem to have the same performance of the 26-27 oz Monstas et al. The non-Monstas all seem to flex (too much for me) at the joint piece (I am partial to Worth products). Luckily, I am just about retired from playing thanks to a couple of bum knees.
stang7222
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You can't retire yet, woodbat worlds is 11/9
TWmccoy
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I think USA needs to overhaul their bats, and redefine what is legal and what isn't. Stuff like Monstas are built differently than most bats, and are super low compression. I think USA should deaden the bats quite a bit. I see clowns with terrible swings hit bombs in USA all the time, even using .52 300s. USA should adopt a compression standard similar to USSSAs (IE, 240).
BTW, I think there are 2 reasons you don't see heavy bats in USA anymore....
1- Heavier bats produce greater exit velocities, which fail batted ball speed testing.
2- Guys are wusses, and don't buy/swing them.
stang7222
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No, stealing is still a thing.
TWmccoy
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One of the local leagues around here decided they were going to adopt the stealing rule when ASA introduced it years ago. After a couple weeks and numerous broken ankles/knees they quickly got rid of it.
No league in CO allows stealing that I know of.
stang7222
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Here in NJ stealing is really only in States.
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I'm totally fine with that. There are a few things that people only use for high level tournaments and I'm okay with it, and actually prefer that's how it is.
What I don't like is how in ga we'd play NSA but you get 4 hrs, or utrip but you can hit stadiums, or it's just an out on homeruns. Local tourney should make things more strict, not less strict imo.
Softball is a feeder system. If we don't increase league and local participation there won't be people for a bigger tournament scene.
ilyk2win
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Your concept it solid and I agree with it 100%, but it's in direct contrast with the philosophy of today's player/game. Leagues won't increase (at least here) bc it's about stacking 1-2 league teams with as much C & B talent to destroy all the actual league teams, then say dumb **** like "Get better friends!" or "Don't be mad bc my friends are better than yours!" Yet you won't catch them playing a C/B tourney with those same "friends" on a Saturday.....unless it's a charity tournament with the same actual league teams as opponents!
hitless45
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Same **** happens here. I know some /most of those guys, when I ask why aren't you guys moving up they say some stupid crap like oh c tourneys are to far to travel
clementeunknown
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****ing Resmondo is everywhere let others enjoy the game too. They're the Yankees of softball, everyone except their fans hate them.
You're exactly right. This is why my overall theory that heating up the equipment has brought us here. It rewards the sandbagger shortcut mentality, and just leads to more of this.
This has always been a big part of softball, sandbagging and bringing in ringers, etc, but they're just so scummy about it now and the hot bats make it that much harder to beat those guys with good defense and fundamentals. They sandbag and hit middle, plow runners, and talk ****, and then wonder why nobody is playing anymore.
stang7222
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There was a team in my Sunday league like that. I personally liked the challenge of playing against them and I know a few of them from playing though not friends by any stretch. Many of the other teams in the league hated them as did some of my teammates. They left the league when half of their games were no-call-no-show forfeit wins. The other teams hated playing them so much they would rather pay the ump fees and stay home. The lack of courtesy to let this team know they weren't coming was based on how much the other teams disliked them.
blakcherry329
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16" is definitely more entertaining. It's actually like a real softball game.
blakcherry329
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I like the challenge of playing against stacked teams, especially in league games. I like when they start arguing when my team of "regular" guys is keeping it close or winning. Personally, I think teams like that aren't mentally tough, so if you can hang with them the pressure will get to them.