@Crusty Which tf21? the original gotm one in saddle looked and felt exactly like a 1781 I tried on at the same time, they just put the h web on it is what I heard at the time, never tried the grey and black one to compare, i wonder if they retooled in the grey and now released as the 1721, much like the new Mookie betts that isn’t the same 1799 that people are saying, I always regret selling that gotm glove, but my teammate who bought it has used for about 200 games since at 3b, 2b and 1b, absolutely loves that glove