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Question 1:
Runners on 1st and 2nd, no outs. Hard ground ball up the middle to shortstop side of pitcher. Pitcher reaches glove out and just misses making the play (he does not touch the ball). The ball then hits the runner as he is advancing to 3rd. The umpire calls the runner out. I ask the umpire if "did the pitcher make a play on the ball"? He acted as if he didn't know why I was asking and said "the ball hit the runner by the shortstop and he's out". The shortstop clearly had no play on the ball, it would have went into the outfield if it didn't hit the runner. I didn't argue any further, this is a league with out paid umps and I just let it go. Wasn't a big deal, but I was just wondering what the right call is.
My question is, if a fielder makes a play on the ball and then the ball subsequently hits a runner behind them, isn't that runner 'safe'? Dunno if this applies to the pitcher, but just curious.
I could be wrong, but I thought this was the rule.
Question 2:
Also, I was wondering if the base is a 'safe haven' for a batted ball? Example: if a runner is standing on the base and is hit by a batted ball is he safe our out? Someone once told me the rule is different in baseball and softball, but just wanted to find out.
Thanks for any help.
Runners on 1st and 2nd, no outs. Hard ground ball up the middle to shortstop side of pitcher. Pitcher reaches glove out and just misses making the play (he does not touch the ball). The ball then hits the runner as he is advancing to 3rd. The umpire calls the runner out. I ask the umpire if "did the pitcher make a play on the ball"? He acted as if he didn't know why I was asking and said "the ball hit the runner by the shortstop and he's out". The shortstop clearly had no play on the ball, it would have went into the outfield if it didn't hit the runner. I didn't argue any further, this is a league with out paid umps and I just let it go. Wasn't a big deal, but I was just wondering what the right call is.
My question is, if a fielder makes a play on the ball and then the ball subsequently hits a runner behind them, isn't that runner 'safe'? Dunno if this applies to the pitcher, but just curious.
I could be wrong, but I thought this was the rule.
Question 2:
Also, I was wondering if the base is a 'safe haven' for a batted ball? Example: if a runner is standing on the base and is hit by a batted ball is he safe our out? Someone once told me the rule is different in baseball and softball, but just wanted to find out.
Thanks for any help.