ASA Foul Tip

[Longball 28]

Foul tip goes back and hits the ump and the catcher catches it off of him. The ball did make a noticable change of direction but can the catcher make the play off of the ump. I know he's part of the field for hits and throws but does the same apply to catching a foul tip off of him?

 

[Joker]

you can't make a catch off a wall and it's part of the field just the same as an ump

 

[Longball 28]

there was a big argument about it today and it was called an out.

 

[MaverickAH]

Bad call.........

 

[BretMan]

The instant it hits the umpire it's a dead ball and it's a foul ball.

 

[blackbeasst]

doesn't a foul tip have to go higher than the ump to be considered an out anyway?

 

[eddieq]

We need a "foul tip vs foul ball" sticky

 

[sjury]

The instant it hits the umpire it's a dead ball and it's a foul ball.

/thread

doesn't a foul tip have to go higher than the ump to be considered an out anyway?

No, the ball could technically be over the umpires head and still be a foul tip, if the catcher had his/her glove up in the air, and the ball went off the bat sharply and directly to the glove. A foul ball doesn't have to be over anyone's head, it just has to have a perceivable arc. The height of an umpire has no bearing on any call in softball, and the batter's height only matters on called balls and strikes.

 

[Longball 28]

thanks for proving my point guys...

 

[irishmafia]

Foul tip goes back and hits the ump and the catcher catches it off of him. The ball did make a noticable change of direction but can the catcher make the play off of the ump. I know he's part of the field for hits and throws but does the same apply to catching a foul tip off of him?

To start, this is not a foul tip.

Batted ball hits umpire in foul territory, it is a foul ball

All the rest is just a waste of keystrokes

 

[Longball 28]

Does anyone know the actual rule number. Had the same umo last night and he makes a smart comment about i should have looked up the rule on Sunday night

 

[beernbombs]

Rule 1 Definitions.
Foul Ball- A batted ball that:
C. While over foul territory, touches touches the person, attached or detached equipment of a player or an umpire, or any object foreign to the natural ground.

 

[pineapple]

Foul tip goes back and hits the ump and the catcher catches it off of him. The ball did make a noticable change of direction but can the catcher make the play off of the ump. I know he's part of the field for hits and throws but does the same apply to catching a foul tip off of him?

no
strike and delayed dead ball in asa with stealing

 

[BretMan]

Not a delayed dead ball. An immediate dead ball as soon as it touches the umpire.