Good ones to try IMO are: Maximize V2, Hyde (with dmaa), and SAN fierce domination. They all use agmatine as the NO booster which is actually effective at .5-1g per serving whereas Jack3d 1MR and etc use AAKG as part of a 4g blend, and even if the whole scoop was AAKG its still not going to be very useful for NO especially with vasoconstrictors such as caffeine and DMAA. They're awesome products though, but you aren't getting any real "pumps" out of them. They're most mental stimulants which may get you mentally pumped, but I just scratch my head when people say Jack3d gave them the biggest pump........for that I'd just add a scoop of hemavol to the 1MR's and Jack3d's of the world and then people will be pumped in all the right ways haha but its all person preference and your mentality in the end.
