Well, the runner was coming off of the bag after each pitch. The ball would land, he would come off about 4that steps and then the next pitch was thrown. He would get back to the bag just barely afyer the ball was released.
He can come off the base once the pitch hits the ground, is batted, or reaches/passes home plate. I'd hold up the next pitch until he's back on the base, but I'd probably tell his coach to get this knucklehead's mind in the game. He's holding things up.
Not an issue. Can't have a pitch when I've got the stop sign up.Would you change your position if you had a d-bag quick pitcher? that catches and immediately throws?
Same thing as above.Also change the situation to one I'm surprisingly routinely in because umps out here apparently just don't pay attention, not saying you guys are like this but in all the leagues I've ever played in this one just gets folks from wherever. I'd say 9 times out of 10, on a ground ball to the left side I'm beating it out to first, and running balls to the wall to ensure same, and I don't know about most folks but I don't stop on a dime running through the bag, so I'll be decently down the line and jogging back to the bag still and the pitcher is in the process of throwing the next pitch. Would you kill the pitch or play on?
If the runner is off the bag before the pitch gets to the plate and the umpire sees it it will be a dead ball runner is OUT. If he leaves for example when the batter looks like he is going to swing he can usually get away with it but there is NO way he would not be back at the bag before the pitcher was ready to make another pitch.
USSSA 8-12: Base runners are not out:
B. When a base runner is required to return to a base and is not given sufficient time to return.
Not true.
When "time" is called, runners must stop and return to their bases. If the batter-runner overruns first base and is returning, I'll hold up the pitch until he (and any other runners) return to their base(s).
Not true.
When "time" is called, runners must stop and return to their bases. If the batter-runner overruns first base and is returning, I'll hold up the pitch until he (and any other runners) return to their base(s).
This rule^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^is for after a ball has been hit. ie. batter/runner or base runners after a foul ball. That is not the scenario provided by the OP. You may be an umpire but your reading is suspect.
Not correct.
Nowhere does it mention that the ball must be hit.
The runner was legitimately off of his base, and he should be given sufficient time to return.
Now, if he keeps delaying the game like this, I may call the out later, but only after I tell his coach to have him knock it off.
WHen have you seen a runner so far off the bag on a take pitch that he cannot return in the time the catcher throws back to the pitcher? He cant lead, he's not supposed to leave the bag until there is contact, correct? If the batter does not swing the runner usually has only taken one step.
And no, he's not tied to the base until there is contact. That's just a myth.
So allow me to learn here. I Know you must be on the base at the time the pitch is thrown. When by rule can a baserunner leave the bag? I assumed it was on contact only? ASA Rule please.
He can come off the base once the pitch hits the ground, is batted, or reaches/passes home plate. I'd hold up the next pitch until he's back on the base, but I'd probably tell his coach to get this knucklehead's mind in the game. He's holding things up.
He already gave the answer in post 5:
All that has to be done for me to drop the stop sign if the batter hasn't asked for time, is for the pitcher to present the ball.
This is incorrect, you should also be checking that all runner are at their bases, all fielders are in fair territory and giving the batter a reasonable amount of time to get set before declaring the play live, at which point the pitcher may present the ball and begin their pitch.