Utrip Bat length at 35" instead of 34"....Is this illegal for USSSA?
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Bobby Buggs
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Thats why people drop fingers, to try to get a longer bat. I would take a 35 for sure.
4xtra
Player/Coach
There is a story online about a guy who made a 36 inch bat at his shop and
they said the shots he hit were absolutely unreal.
A broken in 36 inch bat that is end loaded hitting 44's be would be almost lethal...
The MOI on that bat would be extreme
Hiltz
Built for comfort
It would be like dropping 2 fingers and overlapping 2 fingers on a 34" bat. Definite improvement, but nothing crazy.
Unless you dropped fingers and overlapped on the 36" bat...
TWmccoy
3DX Connoisseur
Yes. I figure you get an extra 2-3" of bat to work with when using the overlap grip. You notice it, but it isn't revolutionary. It does increase leverage.
4xtra
Player/Coach
bird25
34/30 Club #25
Does usssa count the knob and endcap as part of the bat? I’m guessing they do. We also can’t exactly see where the other end of the tape is.
Had a 35 inch PST back in the day, just a manufacturing defect,
Wonder if all Crushes are like this one
Bobby Buggs
SBF Site Sponsor
If its a turd like 90% of Mizuno bats then that extra inch wont really matter
bird25
34/30 Club #25
Did you try the senior Rejuvenate? I get really good results with it but I liked the OG blackout too
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nutmegs
IDGAFOS
Some people do it that lock fingers to get better whip also.
goldglover79
Nc Vinci player rep
The Rusty Bumgardner was pretty good too. Other than that the Frenzy was the only two bats from Mizuno I can remember being worth a crap.
nutmegs
IDGAFOS
bahahaha.
scottydoesnt
Extra Hitter
Says 34" on the barrel. I say it's good to go.
blakcherry329
Well-Known Member
Seeing the full measurement of the bat would go a long way. I haven't measured a bat, ever. So I'm not sure where the official measuring begins and ends. I assume it's the entire bat.
That's a pretty big miss from the QA dept.
That's a pretty big miss from the QA dept.
bird25
34/30 Club #25
Yeah, I was wondering if the endcap was part of the official measurement
stork
Rocky Mountain Oyster aka DirtDog
This/\ .
Country469
Well-Known Member
If its got a usssa stamp on it that means USSSA has signed on off that model being legal, unless it has been altered in any way that bat is legal.
blakcherry329
Well-Known Member
Playing devil's advocate, if you knowingly use a bat that may have slipped through the cracks, so to speak, are you breaking the rules by using it? I'm just stirring the pot here.
I really don't care and wouldn't call anyone that used the bat a cheater, imo
Hiltz
Built for comfort
That particular bat wasn't approved by USSSA; the MODEL was and that one bat slipped through production.
Adding 1" isn't going to make a huge difference. But in the same vein; if you saw a senior bat on a rack, you knew it was a senior bat, but it had an ASA stamp on it would you use it in ASA play?
Adding 1" isn't going to make a huge difference. But in the same vein; if you saw a senior bat on a rack, you knew it was a senior bat, but it had an ASA stamp on it would you use it in ASA play?
Country469
Well-Known Member
there is no slipping through the cracks. The chinese manufacturing is not exact enough yet, period. There are tolerances that most bats can fall in for production. Think of the same model bat you had 3 of and how they were all never identical. That. And then apply it to manufacturing processes and compliance stuff.
Unless the bat is altered after its been shipped from the manuf, its legal for play. IF you snitch and call home office, they may audit Mizuno and the bat who knows. I dont have access to their contract with utrip
Unless the bat is altered after its been shipped from the manuf, its legal for play. IF you snitch and call home office, they may audit Mizuno and the bat who knows. I dont have access to their contract with utrip
scottydoesnt
Extra Hitter
This makes me wonder how many other bats may be above 34” unknowingly.
Redsfan
Well-Known Member
So after reading this thread I thought I would measure both of my bats. My 2018 Worth Legit is 33 3/4 inches and my 2017 Mizuno is 33 7/8 inches.
I would have to assume there is probably a +/- of an allowance above or below 34 inches in the USSSA agreement/contract with these manufacturers. One full inch seems like alot but maybe that's the max discrepancy.
I would have to assume there is probably a +/- of an allowance above or below 34 inches in the USSSA agreement/contract with these manufacturers. One full inch seems like alot but maybe that's the max discrepancy.
Hiltz
Built for comfort
I currently own 3 different Blackouts, a Nighthawk, and an old Techfire. Oddly enough, the 18yo Techfire is the only one that measures exactly 34", the others are 33-7/8" and 33-15/16".
A full inch isn't a manufacturer's tolerance, that's some guy showing up hungover after Chinese new year and completely dropping the ball.
nutmegs
IDGAFOS
Basically what he said. If for some reason a bat leaves the factory testing at 210 out of the wrapper due to quality control it's legal to use since you haven't altered it and it has the USSSA stamp. However just like a bat testing 210 it's only legal until an official tests it, or measures it (kind of how ASA umpires used to). In this case no umpire is going to bring a tape measure so you are fully legal.
Country469
Well-Known Member
Not my problem to worry about and why you should insist on American made goods