Why Easton is Dying...
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22deucedeuce
Coach
Looks like it will be really good. How did those 300 cuts feel?
Madbeers
Boss Awesomesauce
I love Eastons. The feel, weighting and durability are just top tier. I need to give it more time to be fair and compare to other bats. To me, it's comparing apples and oranges. Eastons take work to break in. Miken/Worth don't seem to need too much love. This I can say... I liked the feel of this Helmer over last year's Kirby and TORQ outta the gate.
tnbowhunter
Addicted to Softballfans
It would take me a really long time to put 1000 swings on
a bat
a bat
Chrisklol
301' Bombs
I swung Madbeer's new helmer outside against my torq.
My torq had probably 50 hits on it and the helmer was closer to 200 at the time. My immediate reaction was it's the exact same without a spinning handle. The barrel response felt the same and sweet spot is same. The helmer did feel more end loaded though.
The only thing I can think is it's a torq that breaks in a bit quicker with more endload and no spinning handle.
My torq had probably 50 hits on it and the helmer was closer to 200 at the time. My immediate reaction was it's the exact same without a spinning handle. The barrel response felt the same and sweet spot is same. The helmer did feel more end loaded though.
The only thing I can think is it's a torq that breaks in a bit quicker with more endload and no spinning handle.
Ballisttic
Star Player
Damn you all, i hate you, now i want one bad lol
Madbeers
Boss Awesomesauce
Common Chris... How can you say it's the same barrel but it breaks in quicker? That makes no sense.
I need to hit this Helmer again....
It honestly felt like crap to me when I hit it.
I am beginning to suspect either I hit a demo dud, or it was literally way too new out of wrapper to judge it any. But it really felt whack to me compared to previous Helmers. I was never hating on the feel of Helmers before, just their pop. But this year's felt off to me.
Guess I will need to make a point to try one again, hopefully more worked in.
Typically I like Madbeers' suggestion in bat so...
It honestly felt like crap to me when I hit it.
I am beginning to suspect either I hit a demo dud, or it was literally way too new out of wrapper to judge it any. But it really felt whack to me compared to previous Helmers. I was never hating on the feel of Helmers before, just their pop. But this year's felt off to me.
Guess I will need to make a point to try one again, hopefully more worked in.
Typically I like Madbeers' suggestion in bat so...
etnstudios
Addicted to Softballfans
Chris says lots of things that don't make sense
Chrisklol
301' Bombs
It felt the exact same, swing to swing, only difference was the end load, and it had more pop.
Otherwise the barrel responded the exact same in my opinion. I am no pro and i could be completely wrong.
Chrisklol
301' Bombs
If they somehow figured out how to make the bat feel the exact same but break in quicker. I am not sure how they did it, but they did. I think the new Helmer is a big winner in my book. Great stick and feel. I like it alot.
Madbeers
Boss Awesomesauce
I doubt you hit a demo dud. Demo's are usually superior to consumer product if anything. If I remember correctly, you stated that you have a hard time getting your Eastons to break in. While this model does break in a bit quicker, you may want to look at getting one used. Just a thought.
It's all coming together.
TORQ felt stiffer to me. Weighting felt very similar to me though. If I had to game a 300 hit TORQ or a 300 hit Helmer... I would choose the Helmer. Very Kirby like. Broke in a great deal quicker. And that's with my weak ass swinging it.
You're likely right about the used thing for sure. That or wait until this one is down cheap by next winter.
Funny how I felt the Torq initially had a softer barrel which I liked. And thought this new helmer felt super stiff and very hollow feeling. Like it would resonate moreso than any other bat then sting in the hands as a result.
Goes to show how subjective all things are.
I need to hit one again.
Funny how I felt the Torq initially had a softer barrel which I liked. And thought this new helmer felt super stiff and very hollow feeling. Like it would resonate moreso than any other bat then sting in the hands as a result.
Goes to show how subjective all things are.
I need to hit one again.
Cags
Star Player
Madbeers helmer gets around. I also took some swings with it. The 27.5 seemed light compared to other 27.5 oz bats I have swung. Weighting and everything felt good. Thing started webbing up right away. It was a lot better than last year's easton offerings. With Madbeers swinging it I don't think it survives to 1000 hits.
Chrisklol
301' Bombs
You may be right here.
My impression was the same.
27.5 was light compared to previous 27oz Helmers to me.
I need to swing this again for more than a round and one with some work on it.
Reading reviews of it I trust here, and it doesn't match my opinion of it.
Friend of mine has a Kirby which already webbed within 200 cuts and he seems to fire the ball with it just as well as his Mikens. He is a big fan of it. To me it was OK. Didn't feel too much different than last year's.
27.5 was light compared to previous 27oz Helmers to me.
I need to swing this again for more than a round and one with some work on it.
Reading reviews of it I trust here, and it doesn't match my opinion of it.
Friend of mine has a Kirby which already webbed within 200 cuts and he seems to fire the ball with it just as well as his Mikens. He is a big fan of it. To me it was OK. Didn't feel too much different than last year's.
4xtra
Player/Coach
Your sis was not stiff at all though, hot out of wrapper, And has a good endload in 27oz. They could of made some tweaks though.
I'm hoping to pick one of these up later in the year when they go on sale, will they take me 600-700 hits to open up?
I swung last years baker and was disappointed. This years are much better?
Chrisklol
301' Bombs
He chooses the dc41 or freak 30 over any easton right now.
WillW3
Starting Player
As do I sadly.
WillW3
Starting Player
Given I haven't swung the Helmer yet, I can't weigh really in, but with the speculation of the SIS Major and the Helmer being repaints, I'm taking the 100H or 100W over the SIS Team edition 10 out of 10 times.
WillW3
Starting Player
It's been mentioned numerous times, and there's a new thread on it