Yes, there was a perfect game in slow pitch softball in a USSSA tournament


caseygeo

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On July 17th 1977, I was a manager and pitcher for a class C division team called wings playing in the Mercer County New Jersey division in Trenton. We played one game of the tournament in the morning and then had a second game in the afternoon against the team called the Caribbean Indians.. we had played them once before during the regular season but it's always good to come up against the team in a tournament. These were pretty open areas and had good cross breezes. Which is perfect for me because I used to pitch and had an unbelievable fork ball which would be released from being nestled between my thumb and my forefinger. I don't know how I did it but you could count every stitch. And with a strong breeze that ball would move a lot. Two of my regulars were not there for the game so I had a sub at third base and a sub at right field. I'm not going to make this too long cuz nobody might read it for all I know. This is my first time here. But around the 5th inning I'd became aware that nobody had reached Bass yet for the Indians. But like I said, I'm skeptical that this will even be read by anyone but I ended up retiring 21 batters in a row. I still have the ball with everybody's signature on it. There was no internet back then. The local sports reporter for the Trenton times I think his name was Gary snorbis interviewed me at my girlfriend's house and I had a full page write up about a week after the game. After that my 15 minutes of fame is over. I would have went viral had I done it with media that's out there today. That year our annual end of your banquet was held in Scranton and Pittsburgh pirates player Bill Robinson was a guest as well as New York Yankee Hall of Fame pitcher whitey Ford. I won the MVP that year and when I went up to receive the trophy the announcer told whitey Ford about my perfect game. Waiting for reach out with his hand and then motion a underhand delivery and he said "are you serious? You pitched a perfect game like this?". Yeah, you can't feel any better than impressing whitey Ford about your pitching.
That was the last year of our 3 years as a team. We started at the minor league and when that championship next year we went into the international league we won that championship and our final year we were in the national League and won that championship. I'm quite proud of what I did. But I cannot find any information about the game I Google it there's no listing of anybody pitching a perfect game. I'm getting your 70 now and I would really like to have it noted somewhere. Hell, the Trenton New Jersey softball Hall of Fame doesn't even have mention of it. This past week there was something in one of the sites I went to her a guy who was playing in a Hall of Fame USSA tournament which I assume means playing against a bunch of old guys claimed that he had only perfect game. And that game was canceled after four innings to some kind of Mercy rule. Wear if the teams up by a certain amount of runs call the game and it doesn't go any further. So hell, he's taking credit for a perfect game at four and a half innings. At four and a half innings I didn't even think about a perfect game it wasn't till the 5th. And if you want pressure try making those last 9 out without shaking a little. Well, that's all I got to say. If anybody out there can help me get some recognition for this I would be so happy and I would make me feel good for my grandchildren. And if someone can tell me why there was no note of that accomplishment in the Trenton softball Hall of Fame I would love to understand that. And if somebody knows how I can get a copy of that article that was printed at the end of July that year I would love to see that. I don't know what side I'm even on now but if anybody can help me and please call or text me my name is Casey George my phone number is 910, 264-8152 I played in Trenton New Jersey and I moved to Wilmington North Carolina in 1993 and that's where I am now. I'm going to take a picture of the softball
 

etnstudios

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Know anyone up there with a library card?

 

ilyk2win

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You come on a National board, based out of MI to ask about a small league in NJ record books? Interesting, esp seeing that the P you referenced pitching a prefect game at the Hal of Fame USSSA tourney (which is a Conference event not an old man's event) is from the same damn area. Just hit him up on FB and he can point you to the right people in Mercer County to get your recognition; he knows most of the old heads that would have been playing back then.
 

caseygeo

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You come on a National board, based out of MI to ask about a small league in NJ record books? Interesting, esp seeing that the P you referenced pitching a prefect game at the Hal of Fame USSSA tourney (which is a Conference event not an old man's event) is from the same damn area. Just hit him up on FB and he can point you to the right people in Mercer County to get your recognition; he knows most of the old heads that would have been playing back then.
Listen, I apologize for my ignorance. I didn't know what area this was out of or what avenue I should pursue. I think you're being a little harsh on me, someone who has a valid concern for an issue and simply wants answers to. I don't know who you are, but I know one thing, you surely are not in administration. I think you must have been multitasking when you wrote this. It must have been tough . How were you able to trim your toenails orally as your finger was knuckle deep in your nostril trying to remove at least one of the flies that call it home. You need to be more careful, what a loss for the world of literature that would be to lose such a linguist as you.
Oh my god, I just realized this is a softball fans forum. What's the matter did the brotherhood of bat boys turn you down from entry into their group. Now it's actually funny thinking about what you said. Comes down to this, I pitched the only complete game perfect game ever in a USSSA sanctioned tournament. Let's talk about you
 

blakcherry329

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This is a tailor made post for Joker, Country, etc. :D
I miss those days:confused:
Having said that, a 7 inning perfect game in a sanctioned event is a nice accomplishment. You need a lot of luck because slow pitch is a hitters game. Pitchers have little control over the outcome.
However, the "tooting of your own horn" takes away from the reaction you would have gotten if you just said, I have a cool story...ijs
 

etnstudios

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Listen, I apologize for my ignorance. I didn't know what area this was out of or what avenue I should pursue. I think you're being a little harsh on me, someone who has a valid concern for an issue and simply wants answers to. I don't know who you are, but I know one thing, you surely are not in administration. I think you must have been multitasking when you wrote this. It must have been tough . How were you able to trim your toenails orally as your finger was knuckle deep in your nostril trying to remove at least one of the flies that call it home. You need to be more careful, what a loss for the world of literature that would be to lose such a linguist as you.
Oh my god, I just realized this is a softball fans forum. What's the matter did the brotherhood of bat boys turn you down from entry into their group. Now it's actually funny thinking about what you said. Comes down to this, I pitched the only complete game perfect game ever in a USSSA sanctioned tournament. Let's talk about you

Ok boomer.

The bats of the time make your perfect game way less of an accomplishment than you're thinking. Take a look at how hard the ball gets hit now, even at the lowest levels. I played in a game where we no hit the other team and maybe faced the minimum (walk + double play) so it's an anomaly, sure, but it's not the only perfect game. Don't get you panties bunched by someone saying you're not that special. That's what you're supposed to say about today's generation.
 

caseygeo

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Ok boomer.

The bats of the time make your perfect game way less of an accomplishment than you're thinking. Take a look at how hard the ball gets hit now, even at the lowest levels. I played in a game where we no hit the other team and maybe faced the minimum (walk + double play) so it's an anomaly, sure, but it's not the only perfect game. Don't get you panties bunched by someone saying you're not that special. That's what you're supposed to say about today's generation.
" The bats at the time"? Are you serious? You say that it was way less an accomplishment as a result of the bats being different than those of today. You make it sound like it was commonplace to have a perfect game in slow pitch, please, show me the list of the documented games having one. Cuz I cannot find one. As for me I have no ego. In the newspaper article that followed the game I stated how I just had a good team behind me that made no mistakes on a particular day. Do you think I take credit for my curveball breaking, get real. It was a simple case of luck. Luck was on my side and I believe it has never been done before and has never been done since. If a game is ended due to a.. mercy rule.. guess what.. it doesn't count. The game must be played to its entirety to qualify as an official perfect game. All innings must be played. So just shut me up. Do your research and let me see your results. No recreational bull****. I want an official USSA sponsored tournament result. I'm sitting on pins and needles waiting to find out.
 

blakcherry329

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Um, it's slow pitch. 90% of the time, the batter is getting himself out by not focusing. I threw a shutout in the knockout round of a state tournament. Wind was blowing out like 30mphs, so my knuckleball was pretty good that day. But there were a lot of hits that went right at people. That's what I mean by luck. Also, bats being better nowadays does make a difference. Balls were harder back then, but sweetspots were way smaller back in the day.
Still don't understand your attitude on this subject. Games are routinely in double digits for both teams. If a shutout or a no hitter happens, there has to be some luck involved. Just trying to put it in perspective given the type of softball. Very defensive and angry. smh
 
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D-ROCK13

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I pitched back to back shutouts a couple weeks ago, with 220 bats and hardcores lol thought the team was just that bad, but the next week we played them in the tournament, and we came back to beat them 17 to 16 after being down 12 in the last inning. lots of luck in pitching for sure. I've been pitching since the late 90s, it would be alot harder to pitch a perfect game now days. every geek on the street is hitting 100 mph liners and the sweetspots are 10 times bigger than single walls
 

caseygeo

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You come on a National board, based out of MI to ask about a small league in NJ record books? Interesting, esp seeing that the P you referenced pitching a prefect game at the Hal of Fame USSSA tourney (which is a Conference event not an old man's event) is from the same damn area. Just hit him up on FB and he can point you to the right people in Mercer County to get your recognition; he knows most of the old heads that would have been playing back then.
Wow you can act like I've got nothing but have you ever shaken hands with Whitey Ford and Bill Robinson? Did Whitey Ford ever put his arm around you and mimic an underhand toss and say to you " I cannot believe that you could throw a perfect game this way, that's amazing "?
And I didn't get on this site for confrontation or bragging rights. I was simply looking for answers not insults. And I don't know if it was you or one of these others who said something about the bats being different. I don't know what that could even mean. And you know what.. it broke my heart to get this reception. I'm 67 years old nearing the end of my days and I would love to be remembered for that a. Was it luck? Of course it was.
This is a tailor made post for Joker, Country, etc. :D
I miss those days:confused:
Having said that, a 7 inning perfect game in a sanctioned event is a nice accomplishment. You need a lot of luck because slow pitch is a hitters game. Pitchers have little control over the outcome.
However, the "tooting of your own horn" takes away from the reaction you would have gotten if you just said, I have a cool story...ijs
Hey, I appreciate you saying it was an accomplishment. I wasn't tooting my own horn. I was just so bewildered as to why there was no mention of it anywhere. And what I said was true. It was a huge event and think about it is everybody knows it's luck.
But even in Major League baseball, it's luck if you get a perfect game or no hitter. And of course, the players make the difference in the outcome. But the only thing is that a player is involved only when the ball is hit to them. An error will ruin a perfect game. But so will a walk. So if the center fielder made five put outs in the game he was only involved in the outcome on those five pitches. The pitcher, on the other hand, is involved with each pitch and every batter throughout the game. All it would have taken was an extra strong wind coming through and there could have been a walk. You haven't felt pressure until you get to that point in fifth inning. The first four I felt nothing. And those were the easiest innings for me.
I didn't know what this site was. But I think that I was treated pretty roughly. Especially by ilyk2win..he has issues. But after I won I got the whole team to sign the ball, I dated it and after having kids I thought it would be something that would be passed on and keep my memory alive. I have three boys, and like most of the reactions from this place they don't give a crap and the ball wood end up being tossed out sometime ahead.
And FYI my team that was backing me up hadn't played softball until I formed the team. I knew some of them from school but I recruited some through a ad about having tryouts for a new softball team. I had previous experience and I showed them how get used to Arch pitching and the best way to place hits. And we moved up each year of play we came in first place. We disbanded after our third year. And that was the year of the perfect game.
Um, it's slow pitch. 90% of the time, the batter is getting himself out by not focusing. I threw a shutout in the knockout round of a state tournament. Wind was blowing out like 30mphs, so my knuckleball was pretty good that day. But there were a lot of hits that went right at people. That's what I mean by luck. Also, bats being better nowadays does make a difference. Balls were harder back then, but sweetspots were way smaller back in the day.
Still don't understand your attitude on this subject. Games are routinely in double digits for both teams. If a shutout or a no hitter happens, there has to be some luck involved. Just trying to put it in perspective given the type of softball. Very defensive and angry. smh
I'm going to post to address all the responses. I never took credit as being solely responsible for the perfect game. I did nothing but thank my players for being there without error.
 

caseygeo

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Didn’t Mooch pitch one this year for roofx?
Hey, just wanted to let you know. That was not a perfect game. It was a circus. I watched the video on YouTube I was looking for a bearded lady and 10 clowns coming out of a small car.
The game was finished after four innings because of something called the mercy rule. So he only faced 12 batters, I faced 21.
Back when I pitched you weren't allowed to do all that motion and movement on the mound. I thought he was break dancing. Funny thing though, he grew up in Ewing New Jersey I grew up in Trenton New Jersey and we are both in Mercer county New Jersey. Yes we are the garden state.. we grow great pitchers .
by the way.
In your first post you wrote... SBF ... I'm old and I'm new at this site what does that stand for? I
 

EAJuggalo

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There was just another perfect game in the loser's bracket final of D worlds. That makes two verifiable perfect games this season. One unverifiable perfect game almost 50 years ago, isn't that impressive.
If OP wants some sort of recognition from NJ, they need to contact Jim Pilla. His contact information is easy enough to get into and he's the state director for NJ.
 

ilyk2win

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67 coming at us with the sensitivity of a 17 y/o. Bruv, it's recreational slowpitch freakin softball. Your life clearly had more important memorable events. To call a Conference event a circus diminishes your own credibility though so you're not really doing yourself any favors here. Head on over to Bills Olde Taverns and ask for Mooch, then let all the boys in there know what happened 50 years ago and how you're much better than him. LMK when, I may just stop by for the entertainment value alone.
 

caseygeo

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There was just another perfect game in the loser's bracket final of D worlds. That makes two verifiable perfect games this season. One unverifiable perfect game almost 50 years ago, isn't that impressive.
If OP wants some sort of recognition from NJ, they need to contact Jim Pilla. His contact information is easy enough to get into and he's the state director for NJ.
Mine is verifiable. I wrote to the Mercer county Parks and recreation yesterday and explained the situation. I also wrote to the Trenton softball Hall of Fame, which actually has three of my players that I coached inducted there. But as far as the so-called " perfect " game this year you must be kidding me. That wasn't a game that was a circus. The game was called at 4 innings and what they term a mercy rule I think the score was 25 to 0. I guess they changed the rules from when I pitched. We weren't allowed to make any movements other than towards the plate. I didn't look like a pitcher, it looks more like MC Hammer in concert. So don't dare to compare that with what I did. I don't know what the other one you're talking about is you have to let me know. But I will get my recognition. And people are so stupid, not you so much, but somebody actually claimed it was because of the bats and the balls. Sure, maybe they've changed, but they would not influence a perfect game. If that were the case and it was so much easier back when I was throwing there were still none thrown other than mine....so what does that say?
And as far as verification goes. I'm going to get the online access to the newspaper in Trenton during the week of July 17th and you'll have the picture I don't know how to send it but you'll have it here. And how big was this event? The reporter didn't have cell phone back then. He came to my house to interview me for a exclusive. But I wasn't there I was at my girlfriend's. And guess who showed up at the door 5 minutes later ...
the reporter. You can look these names up George O'Gorman and Gary Schnorbus... They were the only two sports writers in the city. I don't remember which newspaper it was in so I don't know what reporter was doing the interview. But, I guess somebody cared at the time. And you know what.. my original post was just to see if somebody could tell me what I should do. Instead I get bullied and berated and I didn't deserve that. This event really did happen to me and if it happened to you what would you do? Google yourself now about perfect games in slow pitch softball and see what you come up with. And don't forget a mercy game is not a perfect game. It's got to be seven innings. Mooch faced 12 batters, I faced 21.
 

caseygeo

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Mine is verifiable. I wrote to the Mercer county Parks and recreation yesterday and explained the situation. I also wrote to the Trenton softball Hall of Fame, which actually has three of my players that I coached inducted there. But as far as the so-called " perfect " game this year you must be kidding me. That wasn't a game that was a circus. The game was called at 4 innings and what they term a mercy rule I think the score was 25 to 0. I guess they changed the rules from when I pitched. We weren't allowed to make any movements other than towards the plate. I didn't look like a pitcher, it looks more like MC Hammer in concert. So don't dare to compare that with what I did. I don't know what the other one you're talking about is you have to let me know. But I will get my recognition. And people are so stupid, not you so much, but somebody actually claimed it was because of the bats and the balls. Sure, maybe they've changed, but they would not influence a perfect game. If that were the case and it was so much easier back when I was throwing there were still none thrown other than mine....so what does that say?
And as far as verification goes. I'm going to get the online access to the newspaper in Trenton during the week of July 17th and you'll have the picture I don't know how to send it but you'll have it here. And how big was this event? The reporter didn't have cell phone back then. He came to my house to interview me for a exclusive. But I wasn't there I was at my girlfriend's. And guess who showed up at the door 5 minutes later ...
the reporter. You can look these names up George O'Gorman and Gary Schnorbus... They were the only two sports writers in the city. I don't remember which newspaper it was in so I don't know what reporter was doing the interview. But, I guess somebody cared at the time. And you know what.. my original post was just to see if somebody could tell me what I should do. Instead I get bullied and berated and I didn't deserve that. This event really did happen to me and if it happened to you what would you do? Google yourself now about perfect games in slow pitch softball and see what you come up with. And don't forget a mercy game is not a perfect game. It's got to be seven innings. Mooch faced 12 batters, I faced 21.
I pitched back to back shutouts a couple weeks ago, with 220 bats and hardcores lol thought the team was just that bad, but the next week we played them in the tournament, and we came back to beat them 17 to 16 after being down 12 in the last inning. lots of luck in pitching for sure. I've been pitching since the late 90s, it would be alot harder to pitch a perfect game now days. every geek on the street is hitting 100 mph liners and the sweetspots are 10 times bigger than single walls
I hate even having to do this whole thing. I wasn't looking for any arguments from anybody. The fact is whether you think it was so much easier or not when I was throwing doesn't matter. It wasn't that easy if they made such a big deal when I pitched. You act like they were commonplace events when I was throwing in 77. They weren't. I think if somebody could throw a perfect game and slow pitch against 10 year old children that would be impressive. You could have a team of world-class champions playing. But chances are even against 10-year-olds it won't be a perfect game. Hell, it might be divine intervention. It was an amazing thing and you're trying to make me feel like an ******* and that's not right
 

caseygeo

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There was just another perfect game in the loser's bracket final of D worlds. That makes two verifiable perfect games this season. One unverifiable perfect game almost 50 years ago, isn't that impressive.
If OP wants some sort of recognition from NJ, they need to contact Jim Pilla. His contact information is easy enough to get into and he's the state director for NJ.
I don't know what op stands for and I don't know what world d is
 

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you say you hate having to do this whole thing yet you decide to get back on the subject 4 month later 🤔. op stands for original post, d is the level of play.
 

caseygeo

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You come on a National board, based out of MI to ask about a small league in NJ record books? Interesting, esp seeing that the P you referenced pitching a prefect game at the Hal of Fame USSSA tourney (which is a Conference event not an old man's event) is from the same damn area. Just hit him up on FB and he can point you to the right people in Mercer County to get your recognition; he knows most of the old heads that would have been playing back then.
You know what, I think you guys are being a little too disrespectful. You just think of this .....if you pitched a perfect game in slow pitch softball in a USSSA tournament. The newspaper did a whole page article with pictures and Whitey Ford put his arm around your shoulders, waved his right arm in the underhand motion like a softball pitcher and said to you ... You pitched a perfect game like this, that's amazing. ..
And then find out 47 years later that I can't find it on Google no documentation at this point. What would you do? Now think about that. You picture perfect game, you speak with Whitey Ford, you have a full page article with your picture in the local newspaper and now I can't prove it to you guys. I have my softball with all his signatures on it but I can't upload it for some reason it says files too big. But please, give me a break. It saddens me that my ball will probably end up in a Wilmington North Carolina landfill. It was amazing, I am proud, and it's the one thing that makes me feel great about a sport. I'm simply trying to have that ball around for others to see. You guys can dog me to death and that's fine. Why you would choose to do so is beyond me. And if I offended you I'm sorry. I'm not a bad guy
 

hitless45

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You know what, I think you guys are being a little too disrespectful. You just think of this .....if you pitched a perfect game in slow pitch softball in a USSSA tournament. The newspaper did a whole page article with pictures and Whitey Ford put his arm around your shoulders, waved his right arm in the underhand motion like a softball pitcher and said to you ... You pitched a perfect game like this, that's amazing. ..
And then find out 47 years later that I can't find it on Google no documentation at this point. What would you do? Now think about that. You picture perfect game, you speak with Whitey Ford, you have a full page article with your picture in the local newspaper and now I can't prove it to you guys. I have my softball with all his signatures on it but I can't upload it for some reason it says files too big. But please, give me a break. It saddens me that my ball will probably end up in a Wilmington North Carolina landfill. It was amazing, I am proud, and it's the one thing that makes me feel great about a sport. I'm simply trying to have that ball around for others to see. You guys can dog me to death and that's fine. Why you would choose to do so is beyond me. And if I offended you I'm sorry. I'm not a bad guy
with all do respect sir plz let it be.. congrats on your accomplishment!!
 

ilyk2win

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You know what, I think you guys are being a little too disrespectful. You just think of this .....if you pitched a perfect game in slow pitch softball in a USSSA tournament. The newspaper did a whole page article with pictures and Whitey Ford put his arm around your shoulders, waved his right arm in the underhand motion like a softball pitcher and said to you ... You pitched a perfect game like this, that's amazing. ..
And then find out 47 years later that I can't find it on Google no documentation at this point. What would you do? Now think about that. You picture perfect game, you speak with Whitey Ford, you have a full page article with your picture in the local newspaper and now I can't prove it to you guys. I have my softball with all his signatures on it but I can't upload it for some reason it says files too big. But please, give me a break. It saddens me that my ball will probably end up in a Wilmington North Carolina landfill. It was amazing, I am proud, and it's the one thing that makes me feel great about a sport. I'm simply trying to have that ball around for others to see. You guys can dog me to death and that's fine. Why you would choose to do so is beyond me. And if I offended you I'm sorry. I'm not a bad guy

I'd be happy to text you and you can text me the picture of the ball and I'll get it posted in here. You had an article written and public acknowledgement back then, plus you have the ball. You've also contacted the Mercer County/Trenton committee. Nice accomplishment, but the world isn't gonna stop for it. Not sure what else you're looking for. LMK if you want me to text you for the pic.
 

etnstudios

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It was such a big deal that you didn't even keep a copy of your own newspaper article

Watched entire conference game, didn't notice any difference in the equipment and level of play.
 

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D-ROCK13

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I hate even having to do this whole thing. I wasn't looking for any arguments from anybody. The fact is whether you think it was so much easier or not when I was throwing doesn't matter. It wasn't that easy if they made such a big deal when I pitched. You act like they were commonplace events when I was throwing in 77. They weren't. I think if somebody could throw a perfect game and slow pitch against 10 year old children that would be impressive. You could have a team of world-class champions playing. But chances are even against 10-year-olds it won't be a perfect game. Hell, it might be divine intervention. It was an amazing thing and you're trying to make me feel like an ******* and that's not right
Not sure why you assume i was being disrespectful. Simply shared a story of my own and stated the obvious fact that it takes lots of luck to pitch that well. Never did i say your accomplishment was meaningless or did I intend to make you feel any sort of way. But as a guy who's played in both eras of slowpitch, I guarantee it would be easier to pitch a perfect game with metal bats than now days, go watch a little new age ball and you'll understand what I mean. There's a reason pitchers wear full helmets and gear now or use screens. Again no disrespect meant.
 

EAJuggalo

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I don't know what op stands for and I don't know what world d is
OP is Original Poster, the person that started the thread, you.
D is the most popular level of competitive slow pitch. The World Championships were held in Viera, FL the last weekend of September. In the loser's bracket final, there was a perfect game thrown. I think you can go watch it on Youtube, it's definitely on usssalive.com.
 
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