That's my point.
I don't ump, but if I did, and a guy moved up to the front of the box or started two stepping on his swing I'd look for it if I have time. This isn't something you have to focus on unless their behavior alerts you.
This issue irks me because I normally see it when batters are trying to throw the ump off their game and it normally works.
You were saying you didn't see the problem like I wanted a bigger box. I was just clarifying my position.
I don't expect it to be a priority, but I think it should be an easy call when the batter is out of the box in any way. I'm a realist. I only expect it to be called when it's horrible and obvious to everyone.
Seriously, when else have you ever seen it period? With a one man crew I wouldn't expect it to be called for the reasons you and maybe Irish are stating. I really can't tell what he's saying, typos or otherwise.It's really only obvious when the batter steps on the plate or out of the box in front of the plate. The HP umpire is watching the pitch, he/she can't call an out on something they may have seen out of the corner of their eye.
Seriously, when else have you ever seen it period? With a one man crew I wouldn't expect it to be called for the reasons you and maybe Irish are stating. I really can't tell what he's saying, typos or otherwise.
Anything else and it should be really obvious. A guy stepping out of the box as he swings, stepping back towards the ump out of the box? That's going to have to be a crazy pitch and scenario. Same if he steps out on the third or fourth base side (righty our Lefty).
I've seen multiple batters step in home and it's missed because nobody thought they'd seeing at such a bad pitch. I'm not expecting mlb quality at my local field.
Your attitude is the exception, not the rule, around here, unfortunately.Well, when there are no lines, the box is still there. I'll give you some leeway, but if it's dead obvious that you're out of the box, I won't hesitate to call it.
I know an umpire who once got some grief over calling a batter out for stepping out of the box where the lines were gone. He asked him, "is there a line between your house and your neighbor's?" The batter said, "no," to which he responded, "well, then how do you know where to mow the lawn?"
The lines are there, even if they aren't. It's not that hard.
Your attitude is the exception, not the rule, around here, unfortunately.
I love it when guys stand a foot out of the box, just throw inside out curveballs and most of them cant reach far enough to make decent contact
Only if the ump knows how to call the strike zone properly. If they do, a regular breaking ball that just catches the outside corner is a great compliment. Sadly, they rarely do.I love it when guys stand a foot out of the box, just throw inside out curveballs and most of them cant reach far enough to make decent contact
What funny here is that umps are split. Some will only call corners on strike three, like you'd better be ready to protect but I won't call it before. Then others will always call corners except on strike three, like they don't want to ring someone up on that. It makes no sense.you're correct there, most umps here don't understand how to call corners, regardless of the pitch type
What funny here is that umps are split. Some will only call corners on strike three, like you'd better be ready to protect but I won't call it before. Then others will always call corners except on strike three, like they don't want to ring someone up on that. It makes no sense.
If it is a strike, it's a strike regardless of the count
Actually I’ve seen both since this long ongoing discussion has been posted.No. The outside dimensions are 3x7. The chalked lines are within those dimensions.
Actually I’ve seen both since this long ongoing discussion has been posted.
He hasn't seen someone put the chalk on the wrong side of their outline since this thread started? Man, you are good.Actually, no. By rule, the lines are to be considered part of the box regardless of the actual circumference of the BB