TRaj2327
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Hahaha!! Hardly.
Bears to start Jay Cutler
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Hahaha!! Hardly.
rat bastard
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shakin.....stirred? WTF, gots to know
BigWhiffa
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clear that cutler played against 3 top 10 pass d's and mccown hasn't faced one?
BigWhiffa
Underwear Researcher
he only got the opportunity on a some fluky facemask call.
mccown is 2-2 against turds. nominal qb's put up numbers when they are down and bad pass d give cushions.
TRaj2327
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Shhh. I know. Almost 100% to blame on the defense though.
Reality is that the majority of people around these parts want to stick with the hot hand.
I'm heading to the game this weekend myself, so I just hope that whoever does play (Cutler), doesn't **** it up.
rat bastard
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compare their numbers, pretty much exact
rat bastard
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Todd Collins
GP---Comp---Att---Comp%---Yds---Avg---TD---Lng--Int--Fum--QBR---Rate
4----67------105--- 63.08----888---8.46---5----54---0----3----54.7--106.4
McCown
7---147---220---66.8---1809---8.22---13 ---80---1---2----85.7----109.8
GP---Comp---Att---Comp%---Yds---Avg---TD---Lng--Int--Fum--QBR---Rate
4----67------105--- 63.08----888---8.46---5----54---0----3----54.7--106.4
McCown
7---147---220---66.8---1809---8.22---13 ---80---1---2----85.7----109.8
TRaj2327
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Rapistburger
SevenBizzos
The R
The Todd Collins reference is nearly a parallel to what's going on with the Bears. Jason Campbell could have played, but they went with the "hot hand" theory and lost. Collins went 3-0 starting with 5 TD's and no INT's and the Redskins tried the "hot hand" fallacy into the playoffs. He threw two INTs for TD's and Seattle smoked them.
You play the better player. You can read why the "hot hand" theory is a statistical fallacy if you'd like.
You play the better player. You can read why the "hot hand" theory is a statistical fallacy if you'd like.
Longball 28
Repping the Vinci
Right just alone against Dallas on Monday if the Dallas defenders could feel their fingers they would have had at least 3 picks that McCown threw right into their hands. The one INT he did throw was called back for a penalty and two of the other 3 drops would have gone for pick 6's. The one point everyone has missed in all of this is McCown has sucked in every offense he's ever been part of, coaches know that and unless another team is running the Trestman offense he's going to fail there too. I'll agree he's playing out of his ass right now but Alshon, Marshall and Bennett are making him look like studs. He's thrown up a lot of hail mary's that they have come down with.
Lastly, the offensive line has gotten so much better in the last month and has finally come close to completely gelling as a legit line. Garza was the only one from last year when the season started and two of the new ones are rookies who keep improving each week. Jay didn't have that luxury as the beginning of the season that McCown has now.
Oh and two of those 8 picks were tipped by Bears WRs right into defensive players hands.
I'm not a huge Cutler fan but they have to play him to figure out what they are going to do with him at the end of the year. If he succeeds and plays as well at the end of the season as he did at the beginning then he COULD be the QB of the future, McCown is definitely not the future.
rat bastard
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Bears Suck..........Crawford sucks..........end of argument :moon:
TRaj2327
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Hey clown! You shut your ass up! When the hawks win the cup AGAIN this year....you know who is going to be in net.
HAHAHA!!!
rat bastard
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If they win I'll buy you a bottle of Malort :friday:
TRaj2327
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F that. I'd rather see them lose.
3XC
Big Truss
Except you frame it as a hot hand debate as if its a complete given that Jay Cutler is the best quarterback on the team. The Pro-McCown argument is not framed in that he is the hot hand, but that he's the best chance to win right now, in a season where a division title is not out of the question. Which quarterback gives the Bears the best chance to win right now, this week, next week, and in Week 17?
SevenBizzos
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I was addressing them. That was being said as the basis for the argument in this very thread.
The Bears know which quarterback gives them the best chance to win and everyone on the team has been on message in telling you so the entire time. It's not a mystery and it's not even a debate internally. It's the great Chicago backup quarterback love that we've seen for years.
3XC
Big Truss
Its arguable that the team is more concerned with unity and their expensive prima donnas confidence than in putting the best 53 guys on the field. They are perfectly valid considerations after all.
I say this as a Ravens fan who saw how McCown played before all this hullaballoo started. I'm 100% certain a mistake prone, risk taking, go for broke QB would have lost that game for the Bears. The Ravens dared McCown to beat them and he did, but not by playing like a guy auditioning for a job and jamming throws into coverage. He looked like a wizened late career Chad Pennington, doing exactly enough to win.
I say this as a Ravens fan who saw how McCown played before all this hullaballoo started. I'm 100% certain a mistake prone, risk taking, go for broke QB would have lost that game for the Bears. The Ravens dared McCown to beat them and he did, but not by playing like a guy auditioning for a job and jamming throws into coverage. He looked like a wizened late career Chad Pennington, doing exactly enough to win.
Mike Bradley
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if cutler was not a free agent, i dont think this would be a issue. since cutler is a FA, the bears dont want to upset him by not playing him, even if it means that they do not win these games and make the playoffs. upsetting him they prob feel like he wouldnt sign there.
joee5
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he dont need to rape anyone, he's married