Jonesie
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Sweet. Lets see the picture of it. Lol.
Considering a Mizuno Nighthawk USSSA
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Hiltz
Built for comfort
I just creamed my boxers a little... More EL would be amazing, and thinner handle would be welcome. Always what I like of Easton and LS bats.
Now if only Taco listened to me and painted them like an Orange Techfire or all blackout (not likely but I tried)...
Now if only Taco listened to me and painted them like an Orange Techfire or all blackout (not likely but I tried)...
GrinningBear
World's deadliest house husband
Hey. 29 oz ASA Blackout. And...go! Oh and I'm broke so you'll probably have to steal it.
oilslick58
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Can do. The search is on
bird25
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oilslick58
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Ok Joe.....there you go. Bear meet Bird. Bird meey Bear
Don't have to look very far.
GrinningBear
World's deadliest house husband
We're acquainted. I think half of my trades since the new feedback system have gone to a Terminix office in California.
I thought the same. Or, that if it does it stays like the bat swung at day 1.
I hated the Freak 12 after 400 cuts it went from stiff to bendy to Juggy like with uber whip.
I can tolerate a bit of Flex, if it remains consistent. Love the Easton Helmer Flex for that currently.
Still, can't wait to see what's new with the Hawk. Still loving and swinging this year's. Always eager to try the follow up models to my favs.
Can't wait to see it, and the new Easton line.
All that being said, I have a pending pre order on a Hall 2017 Worth, and I am pretty sure it won't be peeled out of wrapper by me lol.
I hated the Freak 12 after 400 cuts it went from stiff to bendy to Juggy like with uber whip.
I can tolerate a bit of Flex, if it remains consistent. Love the Easton Helmer Flex for that currently.
Still, can't wait to see what's new with the Hawk. Still loving and swinging this year's. Always eager to try the follow up models to my favs.
Can't wait to see it, and the new Easton line.
All that being said, I have a pending pre order on a Hall 2017 Worth, and I am pretty sure it won't be peeled out of wrapper by me lol.
Crusty
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Yes it does. I would call it barrel heavy. Maybe a .25 oz endload. Almost all Mizuno bats feel a little heavier to me than other manufacturers. Guessing it is their MOI...only one I have found to be truly balanced is the No Doubt. I will add that my 26oz bal feels slightly endloaded but I swung a 28oz and it felt much more balanced. Possibly they can't distribute the weight as evenly in the lower weights. Not sure.
Jonesie
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I like the sound of, "heavy barrel" I'll say heavy balanced barrel. But honestly, I really like the feel of it. Idk if you noticed but when squeezed the barrel with my hands I could hear loud rezzins.
Jusrah99
Outstanding Bad Mudasuka!
The "Flex" in the Easton Flex is in the barrell construction, not the handle. Its a stiff 2 pc bat
I get that, I am not an idiot... I know Flex is the barrel tech.
But to say the Flex, or Helmers, or anything Easton 2pc doesn't have a bend or flex action about it is naive to say the least.
It bends, more pronounced than the Nighthawk for sure, so it has a flex about it due to the bending hinge.
Still not a wobble piece like a Z3/Z4 and others like it. Or not quite as bendy as the Freak 12 got with age. But still, the Easton 2pc bats have a pronounced feeling flex or bend about them. Always have, since the first of the 2pc Stealths.
In no way is the Flex as stiff as Nighthawk or Demarini 2pc bats. Let's get real and truthfully honest here...
But to say the Flex, or Helmers, or anything Easton 2pc doesn't have a bend or flex action about it is naive to say the least.
It bends, more pronounced than the Nighthawk for sure, so it has a flex about it due to the bending hinge.
Still not a wobble piece like a Z3/Z4 and others like it. Or not quite as bendy as the Freak 12 got with age. But still, the Easton 2pc bats have a pronounced feeling flex or bend about them. Always have, since the first of the 2pc Stealths.
In no way is the Flex as stiff as Nighthawk or Demarini 2pc bats. Let's get real and truthfully honest here...
Jusrah99
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Not saying you're an idiot, i've just heard the comment multiple times. i feel pretty much no Flex in Easton 2 pc bats. I might be naive, but thats my experience compared to other 2 pc bats. I havent swung the nighthawk yet...
That could be why.
Nighthawk feels like a 1pc, very much like the alloy handle Demarini Ones. Definitely stiffer than Miken/Worth.
Fabulous combo of a stiff handle, and soft yet durable barrel.
So I guess, yes given this, to me the Easton do have a bend about them. Albeit a tight one, and very much consistent from day 1 and onward.
Never had an Easton get wobbly or bendier with time. Others that I've owned that got "loose" like that went the way of out of my bag.
Flex and Hawk were my 2 favs and go to's this year.
Eager to see their 2017 follow ups. Don't expect too much though, as all these bats are hot af out of wrapper or early on now. I'm mostly gauging favourites on feel and how I personally hit with them these days. Everything is good in Utrip, except Demarini lagging behind with the softer type balls. Their Utrip still absolutely rake the 40/44/47 Cor balls but suck with 52. And around here, the rules are all pretty much Utrip stamp and 52 cor balls for the most part. Explains why Demarini lost all of their market share to Miken/Worth/LS and as of this year; Mizuno and Easton Flex took a chunk back.
Nighthawk feels like a 1pc, very much like the alloy handle Demarini Ones. Definitely stiffer than Miken/Worth.
Fabulous combo of a stiff handle, and soft yet durable barrel.
So I guess, yes given this, to me the Easton do have a bend about them. Albeit a tight one, and very much consistent from day 1 and onward.
Never had an Easton get wobbly or bendier with time. Others that I've owned that got "loose" like that went the way of out of my bag.
Flex and Hawk were my 2 favs and go to's this year.
Eager to see their 2017 follow ups. Don't expect too much though, as all these bats are hot af out of wrapper or early on now. I'm mostly gauging favourites on feel and how I personally hit with them these days. Everything is good in Utrip, except Demarini lagging behind with the softer type balls. Their Utrip still absolutely rake the 40/44/47 Cor balls but suck with 52. And around here, the rules are all pretty much Utrip stamp and 52 cor balls for the most part. Explains why Demarini lost all of their market share to Miken/Worth/LS and as of this year; Mizuno and Easton Flex took a chunk back.
WillW3
Starting Player
I agree. I don't feel flex in Easton handles. The only one I did was the 100H, and it was still stiff
So you wouldn't say there is bend in comparison to a Nighthawk or 1pc model like a Weggy?
WillW3
Starting Player
Either one. The only "flex" handles I've ever felt were from Miken/Worth, and they still weren't too unbearable. But I will agree with the fact that the Nighthawk and Demar Alloy handles were the stiffest I've felt. I like the NH more because you don't get the negative feedback as much as a Demar
WillW3
Starting Player
Robo, do you mean that the end load feels smoother or more pronounced (or both)?
WillW3
Starting Player
Quick bat speed needs stiff handles. Think of it like a shaft on a driver.
Jusrah99
Outstanding Bad Mudasuka!
I'll swing Jonsies Nighthawk and let you know. I have a few 1 pc Eastons too...and they feel similar to any 2pc Easton i've tried
I agree on the Demar alloy handle bats...no flex there. The Duece and Juggy lines have a decent amount of flex.
I agree on the Demar alloy handle bats...no flex there. The Duece and Juggy lines have a decent amount of flex.
Jusrah99
Outstanding Bad Mudasuka!
Man...this is gonna be the next want on my list. Does the EL feel smoother or somethin? Whats the specs on the EL for the 2017 model?