Double wall or Single wall?
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MarlSrSoftball
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Your right on the PST. If you can master it you have a great bat to hit with. That heavy end load had a great feel to it and supplied plenty of power.
Double wall will outperform a single wall. Not sure about the current bats but I had very good luck with the Demarini F series bats. Worth EST's were good performers also.
Steve Butler
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what ball will you be using? that could help u decide
Bromo32
Pirates of the Palms
I really don't know.
Any double wall or white steel will hit that ball good.
east bay j
The Polish Hammer
Yeah all these are going to work great
Worth EST's (<2003)
Older Anderson RocketTecks (2-piece endloaded) & Techzillas (one piece balanced) pre-2008
Demarini F Series, Doublewall Distance, White/Raw Steels (singlewalls)
Older Easton Connexions (STZ-1, STZ-2, Trishell), L8.0
Worth EST's (<2003)
Older Anderson RocketTecks (2-piece endloaded) & Techzillas (one piece balanced) pre-2008
Demarini F Series, Doublewall Distance, White/Raw Steels (singlewalls)
Older Easton Connexions (STZ-1, STZ-2, Trishell), L8.0
smarkley3
Certified Trap Hoe
I agree w JJ but really the only reason I like aany of the earlier is the anodized finish. I have late model RTs and TZs and they do hit as well ad maybe better on 52 core. Can you use composite handle bats?
I feel that the newer F series, the F6, F7, and F8 (which I believe are the same) perform better then the older F5.
jayb-223
Coach
What would be really cool to see is a ranking system for all the non-composite bats. Including all the Utrip and non-ASA approved bats but not the titanium bats. I know that would be difficult to do because of personal preference, but would still be good to see a general list. Including bats like all the PSTs, ESTs, Demarini double walls, Andersons, TPSs, Easton Tri-zones, CV12s and Salvos. I know there are a lot of bats to consider but some of you metal heads could surely come up with a rankings list.
MarlSrSoftball
Into Semi-Retirement Still activebut not League
It can be done by downloading the ASA approved bat list. I did it once to list just slowpitch bats. It is a little work but if someone was good at spreadsheets it shouldn't be a big chore as all the bats are marked S or M for the metal bats.
east bay j
The Polish Hammer
Way too many variable to consider. I did this with a number of singlewalls a while back and the variability is all over the place. Swing preference, type of hitting, type of ball and outside temperatures are going to be a way more important factors in deciding what bat you hit best. It's not like any one multiwall metal bat is magically going to hit the ball 20-30 ft farther than the others. This definitely may be the case when comparing ****ty singlewall bats to multiwall bats, or multiwall bats to composite bats but within the multiwall bat community all these bats are going to be in the same ballpark (all things being equal)
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bird25
34/30 Club #25
A doublewall will give a bigger more forgiving sweetspot , so more balls will go far.:thumb:
Pure distance imho is better with a single wall but consistency is lacking
jayb-223
Coach
It is time to continue :bigok:
east bay j
The Polish Hammer
Haha
I'll make it easy on you--I got a nice 2000 EST5 Supercell (goldy) non-recert calling your name. That is the bat you need to get. Also got a really nice 2005 FP Rockettech 34" scale weight 27 ounce. These are the bats I'd use in a multiwall league and they can be yours.
But seriously, for me personally I prefer a 2007 or earlier Rocketech if I'm going endloaded, Techzilla if I'm going balanced. I just really really like the old Andersons. From there I'd take an old EST or Demarini. For some odd reason I just do not like the Raw/White Steels but I am definitely in the minority there (I know guys that can hit these as far as some composites). That and they just seem to dent real easy.
But that's just me.
FYI-Post number 54 in this thread gives my breakdown on some singlewalls; 7 bats test by 7 different rec leagu players of varying skill levels & hitting preferences:
http://forums.softballfans.com/showthread.php?t=1413852
east bay j
The Polish Hammer
Yeah that Easton L8.0 & it's dad the Salvo Scandium SP12SVM are great bats but a lot of leagues ban them because of the composite inner core. Silly LD's, if they are listed as ASA multiwall they should be GTG.
smarkley3
Certified Trap Hoe
As far as double walls out hitting single walls, all metal version are definitely yes but when you go to composite handle and add a ferouse metal into the barrel mix this changes and really depends on your swing, the ball, temps and personal preference. The Demarini Raw Steel, Anderson RocketFlex , Anderson FlexZilla are great double wall, composite handle bats. I myself would use an Nanotek Omega, EL composite handle with some of dat FE in the barrel. But thats just me and I cant swing for power and have seen other rip the ball for distance with the RocketFlex.
JJ, what is this "2000 EST5 Supercell (goldy)" you refer to?
These ESTs hit quite well, I WOULD USE IF i PLAYED ANY DOUBLE WALL LEAGUES, SLIGHT EDGe FOR ME TO THE RTs BUT THEN AGAIN I AM A BIT PREJUDICED, LO
JJ, what is this "2000 EST5 Supercell (goldy)" you refer to?
These ESTs hit quite well, I WOULD USE IF i PLAYED ANY DOUBLE WALL LEAGUES, SLIGHT EDGe FOR ME TO THE RTs BUT THEN AGAIN I AM A BIT PREJUDICED, LO
smarkley3
Certified Trap Hoe
Just another thought, recently was trying to help a bro find a league to play in since "The Yard" is closed here in So Cal. Only option was a league supplied bat that no one liked (including me). I think if you did swing your own metal you would get better participation, especially in the over 40 crowd.
WOW look at me talking like a 40 year old, LOL.
WOW look at me talking like a 40 year old, LOL.
arther itis
payin' to get paid
Anyone ever swing this monster, it feels like it was made for a lumberjack, but it u can whip it, it kills the ball!
2003 EST WS23 Endload - RED
I've got two of these EST23E models but I haven't swung them in awhile
east bay j
The Polish Hammer
2000 EST5 (supercell) - GOLD
I would say they are relatively the same. Some newer models use a composite handle/metal barrel and are going to swing a little different then their all metal counterparts but I would not say they perform better, especially with the 52 core softballs. In the 44 core softball days I believe the theory behind using a composite handle was to give the bat more flex for a better "whip action". With the 52 core softballs most people will argue that you want a stiffer handle (This is a very simplified summary).
JJ
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