hrdchrgin13
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Tampa and Oakland should get welfare from all the hardworking teams.
MLB 2018: The Yankees buy a championship off of Amazon
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Country469
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Mack has been worth the money when healthy yes
Stretch19
Grow up
its also kinda misleading to say the salary in MLB drives success that much as well...
only 4 of the last 8 MLB champions have had payrolls in the top 6 or half dozen like you argued previously
miami got the top two cuban prospects this year, they would be considered a poor team id imagine
3XC
Big Truss
Its a league. Its not a free for all. Why even have non competitive teams? Shrink the league. Or make it godawful like Euro soccer with a half dozen superteams and 20 "feeders" that are basically minor league franchises in minor league parks. Teams that exist to scout and develop players and then charge "posting fees" and basically rent them to the big teams. Its a giant steaming pile of bull**** and obviously not competitive.
You know how the NFL will have preseason super bowl odds and people are like "Wow, the Browns are 300-1, they must be bad!" They have 5000-1 odds and beyond. Because their leagues aren't leagues at all, its just a pretext for 1-2 teams to host games and sell tickets.
You know how the NFL will have preseason super bowl odds and people are like "Wow, the Browns are 300-1, they must be bad!" They have 5000-1 odds and beyond. Because their leagues aren't leagues at all, its just a pretext for 1-2 teams to host games and sell tickets.
3XC
Big Truss
Since the Steinbrenner era, how many MLB playoff teams have been from the top third and how many from the bottom third?
"4 of 8" sounds selective and intentionally misleading to make a point. Come on inspector, you're better than that.
Stretch19
Grow up
clearly the teams willing to spend the most money have a better shot of success, i agree 100% with that point you are making
same thing is going to carry over to any other sport or simply life in general though, thats no surprise
college athletics with no salaries are the same thing, what schools have the biggest stadiums? the nicest facilities? spend the most money on coaches, etc...those are going to be the best schools year in and year out as well
same thing is going to carry over to any other sport or simply life in general though, thats no surprise
college athletics with no salaries are the same thing, what schools have the biggest stadiums? the nicest facilities? spend the most money on coaches, etc...those are going to be the best schools year in and year out as well
3XC
Big Truss
1 out of 2 of my last breakfasts have been chili. Stop cherrypicking.
How many teams from the MLB salary basement win consistently? How many of the payroll leaders post losing records year over year? The playoffs is arbitrary, picking only "champions" and narrowing the sample size to get a result you like is some scumbag ****.
Stretch19
Grow up
4 of 8 isnt selective or misleading at all...the payroll tracker i found only goes back to 2011, hence only giving 8 examples
https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll/2017/
3XC
Big Truss
The difference is when I say the NCAA is a ****ing scam people don't want to argue with me ad nauseam and fall on their sword to defend it. Its transparently corrupt and manipulative.
I say the MLB system is rigged and uncompetitive and some Yankees dip**** rises out of the ground to argue with me about drafting Jeter in 1779.
3XC
Big Truss
Ok then you pedant: How many teams that miss the postseason win the World Series? Show your work.
Country469
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this thred is for fegs god damnit you not lifting ***** fegs
Stretch19
Grow up
sure the mlb system is rigged, giving the teams who spend the most, the best opportunity to win a championship...but as you can see that **** doesnt always happen the way it "should"
like already mentioned the giants had the 2nd highest payroll in the league this year and were like 15 games under .500
brewers had the 22nd highest payroll and were a couple pitches away from the WS
5 out of the top 10 and 9 out of the top 15 payroll teams this year missed the playoffs
sure year after year the teams who spend the most will have a better shot than the teams who spend the least...we all get that
like already mentioned the giants had the 2nd highest payroll in the league this year and were like 15 games under .500
brewers had the 22nd highest payroll and were a couple pitches away from the WS
5 out of the top 10 and 9 out of the top 15 payroll teams this year missed the playoffs
sure year after year the teams who spend the most will have a better shot than the teams who spend the least...we all get that
Country469
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I'd rather you guys just have a high stakes thumb war or something jesus
3XC
Big Truss
Giants had 60 million in DL/inactive on the payroll due to injuries.
You're cherrpicking some stats you like while ignoring a 25 year trend that is ongoing. And again, what NFL team has a payroll 30 times higher than another? Stop. Its a vast difference between one team spending 20% more than another in the NFL and an MLB team having a sub 30 million dollar payroll competing against a team with a 220 million dollar payroll.
What teams win in the NFL? The ones that are well coached, kill it in the draft, have a franchise QB, and get "hot" at the right time. This is not a one year thing, but the state of the league.
What teams win in MLB? The ones that buy wins. The existence of exceptions does not overcome the prevailing trend. Small market teams are uncompetitive most of the time, large market teams are uncompetitive very rarely.
3XC
Big Truss
Stat boy can't run to google to save him and he's flailing around. Also stat boy won't actually post the spread between teams in the NFL, since its quite narrow compared to MLB, with 3-4 profligate spenders dropping 30 mil a season on one star FA and 3-4 cellar dwellers with sub 30 million dollar team payrolls.
Stretch19
Grow up
Stretch19
Grow up
i dont agree with the fact that it sucks, no. i agree with the premise that it is unbalanced and non competitive, but no more so than in leagues with salary caps...relatively speaking anyways; there are really good teams and really bad teams in most all leagues, regardless the sport, level, etc
even with the huge disparity in payrolls, i still get enough of a Cinderella in baseball most years to enjoy pulling for an under dog
astros last year, brewers this year just for the most recent examples have been quite refreshing and enjoyable to watch
hrdchrgin13
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The 7-1 Wildcats take on the 8-0 Eagles this Friday night for single A supremacy
