nfl off season and draft thread
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Fro Joe
Snowden is a hero.
We were already seeing a shift in youth football. Unless someone comes out with some revolutionary helmet the talent pool is going to shrink. We have former stars of the game publicly saying they don't want their kids to play. It will be interesting to see how the NFL handles it. They seem to have a too big to fail attitude.
stork
Rocky Mountain Oyster aka DirtDog
So what you are telling me is that they are ****ed.
Fro Joe
Snowden is a hero.
Publicly they seem to be taking a head in the sand approach. Look at how poor the quarterback play is in the league right now. How is that going to look if football has half the talent pool 10-20 years from now? At least hockey, basketball, and baseball are somewhat worldwide sports. How much youth football exists outside of the US and Canada?
Roger couldn't even handle the Ray Rice scandal. How is he going to handle more promising players retiring in their 20s?
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Fro Joe
Snowden is a hero.
I'm not talking about the NFL right at the moment or one single player retiring. I'm talking about the possibility of a shrinking talent pool and how that will affect the NFL years down the road. I could be way off and would like to be wrong.
rossthefireman
mexicola
It could mirror boxings downfall.
Many parents arent letting their kids play football anymore, but you wont see that translate at the college/pro level for years to come. Rinse and repeat and 20 years from now the talent pool has shrunk. 30 years from now its the poor kids playing football because its the only way out. The middle class (mostly white) kids have moved on to la crosse or other sports not football.
The NFLs PR machine was already going full blast with 'The NFL is safer blah blah blah' as soon as Borlands story hit. The evidence suggests otherwise.
In 30 years, the NFL could be like boxing is now. Its still around but it doesnt matter much.
I could be way off also but youth football is trending down every year and thats more than just a coincidence.
We'll see. In addition to the sport being as big as ever, with 24-7 sports news and social media, talented kids are becoming mini-celebrities in their mid-teens. I can tell you that a talented 4-star DL from Georia just shuffled his top-4 schools the other day....fingers crossed. Anyway, I gotta think all of that's pretty attractive to teh yoots. I guess parents could be the bottleneck, my mom wouldn't let me play, but more of them are fans than ever before.
Obviously, society changes - boxing, as mentioned, and baseball dont hold the spot they used to in American culture. With the changing demographics, I suppose soccer will be #1 eventually.
Obviously, society changes - boxing, as mentioned, and baseball dont hold the spot they used to in American culture. With the changing demographics, I suppose soccer will be #1 eventually.
3XC
Big Truss
Boxing doesn't matter in the USA but boxings stars still get paychecks 30 times bigger than the biggest MMA purse ever.
The idea that the NFL will have unfillable 7 figure a year jobs is absurd. You'll still have the talent coming from Texas and the 7 on 7 leagues that already produced Matt Stafford and Nick Foles. Its basically flag football and its nothing but passing. You'll still have monstrous freaky Samoans and converted rugby guys from New Zealand who want to truck people and laugh at the thought of a concussion. You'll still have kids from desperate poverty who lift their whole extended family from the gutter to prosperity on a single NFL contract.
Demonization of concussions is nothing but a cash grab from rapacious lawyers. The thing about 11 figure businesses though is that they tend to have better lawyers than anyone else. Except 12 figure businesses.
3XC
Big Truss
Head to head, I'll put todays top 5 QBs against any eras top 5 QBs. Also, our 6-10 are better as well. Rivers/Roethlisberger/Eli/Flacco/Ryan are better than Cunningham/Kreig/Kosar/Simms/Mitchell by a landslide.
Not only are the very best of today just more talented, but the "good enough" QBs are more talented. I give an exception to Unitas though, throwing 30 TDs in the 50s is like throwing 60 in 2015. If we put Brady or Rodgers in 1958 and told him to go play I doubt he'd even finish the season with 1958 doctors and 1958 training and 1958 rules.
Not only are the very best of today just more talented, but the "good enough" QBs are more talented. I give an exception to Unitas though, throwing 30 TDs in the 50s is like throwing 60 in 2015. If we put Brady or Rodgers in 1958 and told him to go play I doubt he'd even finish the season with 1958 doctors and 1958 training and 1958 rules.
3XC
Big Truss
Outlier season. Like the year Beuerlein killed it in Carolina. Or the Derek Anderson Pro Bowl season in Cleveland. Or everything related to Daunte Culpepper.
Aikman ain't **** either man. Talk about a system QB. Keep Favre, Elway, Young, and Marino, and add Jim Kelly. Spinning the ball into the wind in Buffalo with anything resembling accuracy wasn't done before and hasn't been done since.
Primo
fat and famous pablo
They always compared him to cutler
I don't see it. Cutler sucks....he just throws hard. George had moments where he looked liek Rogers. Spin go the ball into windows which weren't there. I get why cutler sucks....hes not very good, he's not very accurate, his mechanics suck and he's a smug little homo. George's was all between the ears
I don't see it. Cutler sucks....he just throws hard. George had moments where he looked liek Rogers. Spin go the ball into windows which weren't there. I get why cutler sucks....hes not very good, he's not very accurate, his mechanics suck and he's a smug little homo. George's was all between the ears
3XC
Big Truss
Aikman was the QB on a super team with the best starting 5 O line as a whole in the NFL and a HOF WR, RB and all pro FB and TE, both of whom could block. ****, Emmitt could block. Have 8 guys block for me and let me throw the ball to Michael Irvin. I'd look great.
Troy Aikman still didn't put up big numbers because he was average in terms of ability. If you hate Alex Smith and Chad Pennington for being "ball custodians" and nothing more, you should probably start hating Aikman.
The best way to put a cherry on my argument is to say that he's a better booth guy than quarterback, and I'm not trying to be funny. He's a really underrated and good color commentator and a really overrated QB.
3XC
Big Truss
Arm strength without decision making is not really all that useful. You can be pinpoint accurate and have a cannon but if your reads and anticipation are bad your ceiling is not very high. Fantasy football players will always love the 5000 yard/20 interception guys like Stat Padford, but in real life they don't win* and 32 out of 32 NFL GMs will take Russell Wilson and his 3000 yards instead.
*Brett Favre won a superbowl somehow, proving every word of this wrong.
*Brett Favre won a superbowl somehow, proving every word of this wrong.