NFL Week 13: Aren't you a little young for full contact?
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Rocky Mountain Oyster aka DirtDog
It sounds like an ideal Thursday Night game. I'm taking the Niners and the points, with eyes on an outright win.
3XC
Big Truss
Five Thirty Eight (the people that were right about the election) say KC has a better super bowl chance than Oakland.... and Dallas.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-nfl-predictions/?ex_cid=rrpromo
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-nfl-predictions/?ex_cid=rrpromo
Primo
fat and famous pablo
Dallas gets a bump being in the ****ty NFC.....
and they would destroy KC. Peters would get abused by Dez and we can't stop the run right at us.....people always tryna hit the corners and our defense is way too fast to run horizontal. We can't cover #1's and we can't stop the run right at us.....Peters would get abused by Dez and Elliot would go off.
I still think the Pats get the 1 and will go to superbowl if they get the 1 seed......but i believe whoever the 1 seed is going to go to the superbowl. I just think the afc west matchups the next month will screw eachother for the overall 1 seed and you know Oakland ain't going to GIllette and winning there.....KC maybe, but i doubt it
3XC
Big Truss
Did you see what the Ravens defense did to Dak in the 1st half, before the old men got tired and couldn't turn the corner?
Dak is basically never pressured. When he was actually pressured, he was very inaccurate and he was missing high, which is a formula for multiple interception games.
The Dallas offense did NOT move the ball in the first half. Only when Baltimores middle aged pass rushers got gassed did Dallas establish their run game. Their entire offense keys off it. Without a run game, they don't have Witten wide open, Beasley in 1 on 1 with a LB, or Dez running around with the SS in the box and softer zones.
The question is, what team has the pass rush depth (not just 2 guys, like Baltimore) that can keep pressure for 4 quarters? With a blitz in his face, Prescott stinks. He ain't Drew Brees throwing darts with a guy in his face. He's waaaaay too comfortable back there. Knock him around, he ****s up.
I think Oakland, with Mack, can do this. I also think KC, with Houston, can too.
Primo
fat and famous pablo
pass rush doesn't help if you can't stop the run......which is why i dont like KC's chances. which was my point....
i agree w/ you about Dak and it's why i'm not as high on him as eveyrone.....he's been great in situations but he's also in a great situation and last week, played about as well as i've seen anyone play and he was pressured but i dont buy it come crunch time in the playoffs. He's still a rookie and he'll still choke like all rookies do at some point......but he's gotta be put in that situation.
I like Oaklands chances much much greater than KC's vs. Dallas......
and what bmore does has no bearing on my opinion....they're differnet and they always have been. they hit people harder than anyone else and the game is played differently when they're on the field. grittiest, meanest, nastiest team in the nfl every single year.....i'ts incredible
i agree w/ you about Dak and it's why i'm not as high on him as eveyrone.....he's been great in situations but he's also in a great situation and last week, played about as well as i've seen anyone play and he was pressured but i dont buy it come crunch time in the playoffs. He's still a rookie and he'll still choke like all rookies do at some point......but he's gotta be put in that situation.
I like Oaklands chances much much greater than KC's vs. Dallas......
and what bmore does has no bearing on my opinion....they're differnet and they always have been. they hit people harder than anyone else and the game is played differently when they're on the field. grittiest, meanest, nastiest team in the nfl every single year.....i'ts incredible
3XC
Big Truss
Well, Oakland has a vastly superior QB, for starters. You can't overstate how Carr has changed the Raiders whole organization. He's an MVP candidate (I would vote for Ryan, then Brady, then Carr, the Elliott, in that order).
Smith is the stopgap that stuck around. Anyway, what the Ravens did is a blueprint, no matter what you think, Suggs and company don't have some magical negro powers that topple quarterbacks. Its just a pass rush from the edge, like every other team.
What I saw:
Effective edge rushing in the first quarter made Prescott move his feet. He can't make Wilson/Rodgers "compromised" throws where he's accurate while actually being contacted. You don't have to crush him, just make him move. On the move, not accurate. Don't confuse the ability to run for first downs with accurate mobile passing. There are "mobile" guys who don't run, for one, and guys who run around and are still accurate (Wilson, Ben too, Tyrod actually), and then mobile guys who are inaccurate as hell on the move (Kaep, Griffin). Prescott did NOT like being moved around.
Second half, the Baltimore run D was stout up the middle all day, but the edges frayed and Elliott started punishing them outside. All the effective runs were outside. Once the LBs widened and the D line spread out to keep contain to Dak couldn't run, suddenly Elliott had stretch runs where his blockers made holes. Add to that a key 3rd and 6 pickup where Beasley ended up single covered by a LB, and it was curtains.
Its all about matchups. Create and exploit mismatches. "Genius" coaches just find a way. Garrett is lucky in that his roster creates its own mismatches without him having to think of new ones. Anyway, Dak is gonna have a rocky postseason I bet, even if Dallas cruises to the SB, any of the 3 good AFC West teams would IMO knock the **** out of him. That said, Dallas would handily smoke New England, since they're utterly unable to stop a run game.
Primo
fat and famous pablo
i disagree w/ you about Bmore.....i think they do have magical negro powers. theyre the team no one ever looks forward to playing because it's guranteed you'll get hit in the mouth and you're gonna be sore the rest of the week. you know what you're in for and it's a total slugfest.....
nobody owns brady but by far and away, bmore has done better than eveyrone else combined and their pass rush hasnt' ever been anything ridiculously special, they just hit you continually and never let up.....i they're all a bunch of back alley bare knuckled street fighters who'd do it just for fun.....i watched the game, Elliot was exhausted and beat to **** and had to pull himself up off the field time after time.....they tried to phsyically punish him and the rest of dallas and they've been pushing everyone around since week 1....
it's a compliment
nobody owns brady but by far and away, bmore has done better than eveyrone else combined and their pass rush hasnt' ever been anything ridiculously special, they just hit you continually and never let up.....i they're all a bunch of back alley bare knuckled street fighters who'd do it just for fun.....i watched the game, Elliot was exhausted and beat to **** and had to pull himself up off the field time after time.....they tried to phsyically punish him and the rest of dallas and they've been pushing everyone around since week 1....
it's a compliment
hbwb
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i think the giants may have the best shot at beating dallas in the playoffs provided they actually meet. seattle's o line is so bad i do not see them winning. if they had an o line they would be the team to beat in the nfc but they have one of the worst out there in fact.
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3XC
Big Truss
Dallas' "defense" is a TOP dominating rushing offense.
In that sense, their defense getting after Seattles O line is a red herring. I don't see it as the big factor if they were to meet. I would see it (in order of importance)
1. Team experience - Wilson 2 SBs, Prescott 0 playoff games.
2. Zeke vs. Seattles front
3. Coaching
4. Venue, as road Seattle and home Seattle are two different teams. In Dallas, I pick Dallas
5. Then maybe Seattles offensive line.