Joker
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Great explanationNope, that is wrong
Great explanationNope, that is wrong
Great explanation
the part where you didn't give any info. so much help
Try something new and use your brain to figure it outso unhelpful
for someone who claims to know so much, you'd rather talk down to people instead of explaining it
AgreeeeeedWhy not give the umpire kudos for actually seeing that the runner didn't touch the base? A lot of umpires aren't necessarily watching the play that closely, especially if the plate umpire didn't move at all from behind the plate.
so lets say a 1st baseman has their foot on the base to field a ground ball from 2nd/3rd/SS, it's on part of the base like the picture posted earlier. the batter/runner steps on the foot instead of the rest of the base that is open. there is no part of the fielder's body that is blocking the batter/runner's path to the base. you know like 99% of plays at 1st base. even if you assume the batter/runner didn't touch the base at all. are you calling obstruction?The runner gets to determine his path to a base, not the fielder. Leaving "part of the base" or "some of the base" accessible doesn't matter. If the fielder had his foot on the base- anywhere- and the runner was prevented from touching the base by that foot BEFORE the fielder had the ball, then it would be obstruction.
But forget about all that for a minute...
Have somebody put their foot on a base. Now have somebody else run to that base and try to perfectly have his foot land on top of the other foot and balance there perfectly without any part of his foot touching the base.
Yeah, right...I'm calling BS on that...
so are you calling obstruction?I'm pretty sure that the fielder's foot is "part of the fielder's body".
so are you calling obstruction?
ok, we all know that. thanksthere is a difference between a runner going from home to 1st base.. and a runner returning to the bag.. a runner returning should have clear access to the bag unless the fielder has the ball or is about to receive the throw.. and that doesn't mean waiting, waiting, waiting then the catch..
yes I know what my post said and I don't see anyone with a yes or no answer
there is a difference between a runner going from home to 1st base.. and a runner returning to the bag.. a runner returning should have clear access to the bag unless the fielder has the ball or is about to receive the throw.. and that doesn't mean waiting, waiting, waiting then the catch..
No, there is no difference as it pertains to OBS
yes you are correct OBS is OBS... what I was referring to was the NORMAL position of a 1st baseman on a batter/runner.. he USUALLY is on a corner of the bag and awaiting a throw which gives the runner a lane to run behind him.. as compared to a 1st baseman returning to the bag in the above scenario.. many times the 1st baseman end up in the middle of the bag waiting for the throw.. then I may have an OBS call
it's not that complicated of a scenario, not sure why none of you can give a straight answer
they haven't answered yes or no to my scenario
anyone can cite rules and such, but they don't want to apply them to real world scenarios