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If Painter was the QB for the Giants they still would have won.
WTF are you smoking?
If Painter was the QB for the Giants they still would have won.
I completely agree. That's the common in this discussion. Just because your TEAM wins the Super Bowl, it doesn't magically make you the most talented QB/player ever. It means your TEAM played well enough to beat the others that year. Eli or Rothisberger or whoever can win 15 Super Bowls. It won't make them "better/ more talented" than Peyton. BTW, I'm not a Colts fan so I really don't care either way, but this debate is so obviously retarded I had to chime in.
WTF are you smoking?
I completely agree. That's the common in this discussion. Just because your TEAM wins the Super Bowl, it doesn't magically make you the most talented QB/player ever. It means your TEAM played well enough to beat the others that year. Eli or Rothisberger or whoever can win 15 Super Bowls. It won't make them "better/ more talented" than Peyton. BTW, I'm not a Colts fan so I really don't care either way, but this debate is so obviously retarded I had to chime in.
so finding out how good a QB is, would be based on numbers. many think Montana is one of the best of all time. i guess they're wrong since there are about a dozen QBs that have more yds, tds and better passer rating than he does.
The Colts never really had a stellar defense. What made them look good was Peyton getting up by a ton then the opposing team becoming one dimensional. If everyone knows you have to pass the ball to catch up then its an open invite to balls deep into a QB. The Giants simply have a better defense. Hence the fact that the Colts could never beat the Patriots when their defense was top notch and a decent offense. It has always been their achilles heal.
so finding out how good a QB is, would be based on numbers. many think Montana is one of the best of all time. i guess they're wrong since there are about a dozen QBs that have more yds, tds and better passer rating than he does.
only idiots think Montana is the best....
Steve Young went 3-13 in tampa and was labelled one of the biggest busts ever.......his first full year starting in Frisco, he goes 14-2 and wins the MVP
rice, taylor, clark, rathman (who caught 70 balls) and probably the greatest receiving RB ever at that time in Craig (offensive POY)
and the first time anyone had actually seen the run and shoot.....
anyone woudl have thrived there
So now Eli is on Montana's level
You are reaching bro. Stop being such a homer and look at the facts.
Then why in the **** would you be so nut thirsty for Eli? You just out trollin for the day?
he's going to washington or miami
That was one of the better TEAMS in NFL history
So now Eli is on Montana's level
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You are reaching bro. Stop being such a homer and look at the facts.
yeah, manning throwing 4 INTs against the Pats had nothing to do with it. the was the D's fault. or manning leading his offense to 3 points....yup, blame the D again.
treb was arguing w/ like 8 people at once.....
that's pimp
early 90's cowboys, late 80's 9ers, 85 bears, early 2000's pats, 60's pakcers
in that order
Everyone who says that Peyton is better is an idiot. Peyton is not good for anything but fantasy. Same as Romo. They are good for stats but cant win a game when they need to. Look at what Peyton has had compared to Eli as far as receivers. Harrison, Wayne, Clark, Garcon. Imagine if Eli had those to work with and what he could do. Eli has had one receiver and thats Nicks. Manningham and Ballard are not on the level as the guys in Indy.
70's steelers won 4 sb's in 6 years.
Imo if they had a good qb they would be best all time. As it was even with bradshaw they were dominate. I hated them then and hate them now but cannot overlook them when talking about the great teams.
Obviously you have never watched a game of football in your entire life.
yeah because Shockey, burress, Toomer, and Cruz are just scrubs. Dude stop talking and save yourself the embarrassment.Everyone who says that Peyton is better is an idiot. Peyton is not good for anything but fantasy. Same as Romo. They are good for stats but cant win a game when they need to. Look at what Peyton has had compared to Eli as far as receivers. Harrison, Wayne, Clark, Garcon. Imagine if Eli had those to work with and what he could do. Eli has had one receiver and thats Nicks. Manningham and Ballard are not on the level as the guys in Indy.
Manning revolutionalized the game......he threw passes into windows no one had thought of trying before and he did it every single time out. The reason you see Rodgers and Brady and Brees thread the needle is because Peyton showed them it was possible. Before, if you only had a 2 sq foot area, you threw it elsewhere......Manning just threw it in the 2 sq ft.....couple that w/ no longer being able to paly physical in teh secondary and it's why the NFL is an arena league
That's all Manning too ... 'cuz the Patriots used to stomp-**** the Colts and pick him off so many times, they went the league with the ultimate of butthurts and bitched.
I guess Ty Law gets partial credit.