EST Guide

Sharky

Sharky

The Walking Injury
Those purple shells were extremely cool bats. I had a friend who had one and he hit bombs with 44/375's with that bat. He couldn't do it with many other bats. Just that bat. It was kind of comical.
 
Joker

Joker

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i usually give $50-75 for most ESTs depending on the condition. $75-150 for NIW depending on which EST it is. Don't pay the $250-300 i've been seeing on ebay for NIW ones EVER!
 
TWmccoy

TWmccoy

3DX Connoisseur
arther itis said:
down by the grip.......I've had a few like this that I got used here on the board........the performance wasn't affected but I always thought it was a weird place to get cracks
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No. I've owned a ton of ESTs and 3dxs and never seen handle cracks. I did break a couple of them where the handle meets the barrel, but I've never seen any other cracks in the handles.
 
Small town

Small town

LEFSE RULES!!!!!!!!!!!
managed to snag a decent condition ESTL 1999/2000 the blue one with no ASA markings, yesterday for $40, pretty decent deal. Haven't hit one of these for a long time.
 
Small town

Small town

LEFSE RULES!!!!!!!!!!!
can anyone tell me the difference between the 2000 estk and est5k? I had the purple one and it hit very well and was super durable. How is the grey one? What metal are they? I'm pretty sure the estk was c405.
 
Joker

Joker

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Small town said:
managed to snag a decent condition ESTL 1999/2000 the blue one with no ASA markings, yesterday for $40, pretty decent deal. Haven't hit one of these for a long time.
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awesome deal

Small town said:
can anyone tell me the difference between the 2000 estk and est5k? I had the purple one and it hit very well and was super durable. How is the grey one? What metal are they? I'm pretty sure the estk was c405.
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the ESTK is C405 aluminum

the EST5K is C555 aluminum
 
Small town

Small town

LEFSE RULES!!!!!!!!!!!
Joker0091 said:
awesome deal

PIAS does come through every once in a great while. The only other thing they had worth mentioning was a gold est but I'm pretty sure it was the non-ASA legal one and they wanted $60. I'll wait a couple weeks and may snag it later if it drops in price.
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EvilE

EvilE

Daddy 2011!!!!
Small town said:
Joker0091 said:
awesome deal

PIAS does come through every once in a great while. The only other thing they had worth mentioning was a gold est but I'm pretty sure it was the non-ASA legal one and they wanted $60. I'll wait a couple weeks and may snag it later if it drops in price.
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Offer them $50 for it--I bet they'll do it! My PIAS will barter with me. They had a 28 oz. Anderson Rockettech composite killer for $50, I offered $40, and they did it!:cool:
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Small town

Small town

LEFSE RULES!!!!!!!!!!!
I've tried that before at this particular store without much luck. I'll give it a shot after a while.
 
Joker

Joker

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EvilE said:
which is better?
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here is some good info on the different types of aluminum

texaz said:
I found this, thought it was interesting..............................

Aluminum

Aluminum is lighter in weight which increases control and bat speed. Balls travel farther with aluminum over other metals. Despite generally higher costs than other materials, aluminum is durable and not prone to crack or break Aluminum bats come in a variety of alloys each with a different weight
Generally, lighter aluminum alloys are thinner and more durable. The one thing these have in common is that they are all different combinations of Zinc, Copper, Magnesium and Aluminum. Most modern bats are made of aircraft-grade aluminum supplied by Alcoa or Kaiser. Variations in the alloy formula have resulted in stronger alloys, allowing the manufacturers to design bats with thinner shell walls, which in turn corresponds to lighter weight. All of these advanced alloys are known by trade names (usually a number), as well as brand names (sometimes the same grade will be marketed under a different brand name by different bat makers). The brand names are heavily hyped: you can be sure that if a bat is made of an advanced alloy, that fact will be trumpeted somewhere on the bat, usually in large bold letters. By the same token, you should beware of bats -11 or lighter that do not state the type of alloy used. They will probably be made of an alloy that is too weak to support the thinner wall required for the light weight. The following is a list of the different alloys and their benefits. 7046: This is the standard aluminum alloy used in most bats. Standard aircraft aluminum is designated in the trade as "7046". Most budget bats are made of this grade. CU31/7050: More durable than 7046, due to increased levels of zirconium, magnesium, and copper; is about 33% stronger than 7046. About 12 years ago, Alcoa branded its 7050 grade "CU31" and began marketing it in Slo-Pitch bats as the first high performance alloy. The "CU" designation refers to the addition of copper to the alloy.

C405/7055: Increased Zirconium content than 7050, giving higher strength. Alcoa's "C405" is the next higher grade, supposedly about 10% stronger than CU31. C405 as introduced 8 or 9 years ago, quickly followed by C405 Plus and C405 Ultra, which are the same alloy manufactured under difference processes. The strength difference between C405 and C405 Ultra is only about 5%. C405 Ultra is, therefore, about 38% stronger than standard aircraft aluminum.

C555: 7% stronger than C405, has traces of scandium, which increases strength. "7075" is a new alloy by Kaiser that is claimed to be equal to or better than C405 Ultra. Kaiser's Sc500 Scandium, and Alcoa's C500 and C555 represent the next level up. C500 and Sc500 Scandium are about 3-5% stronger than C405 Ultra, respectively. C555 is claimed to be about 7% stronger than C405 Ultra, or about 40% stronger than standard aircraft grade aluminum.

The current king of the hill is SC777, made by Kaiser. While the other exotic alloys only offer incremental strength gains over CU31, SC777, if the claims are true, represents a truly big leap: about 50% stronger than C405. This means that SC777 is nearly twice as strong as standard aircraft aluminum.

Aluminum bats, and those enhanced with other alloys, also come in single-layer or double-layer construction
Double-layer bats offer more durability and power, since the ball rebounds off the bat with more authority

Cryogenically treated aluminum--Alloy is frozen and reheated to provide greater durability, less vibration and 2-4% greater distance
WHY ALLOY GRADES MATTER (AND WHY THEY MAY NOT) There's a lot of hype out there about the various alloys. Here's why alloy grade really matters. Manufacturers use advanced alloys in order to be able to make the walls of the barrel of the bat thin while still allowing the bat to be strong enough to resist denting. Thin walls equal light weight. Thin walls are also claimed to contribute to a "trampoline" effect, or rebound, when the bat strikes the ball. The rebound effect enhances power, and therefore, distance, given the same swing speed. Think of throwing a baseball against a wall made of superball material, then against a wall made of concrete. Other than allowing for thinner walls, however, there is little power to be gained from the exotic alloys themselves. The various alloys have virtually the same specific gravity, so the walls of a -11 CU31 bat are likely to be the same thickness as those of a -11 SC777 bat. There may be some difference in the trampoline effect, but it is negligible. A good rule of thumb: stick to baseball bats made of CU31 or 7050 alloy or better for -10 bats, at least C405 for -11 bats, and C500 or better for -12 bats. If your child is 11 or 12 and uncommonly large and strong, consider Sc777. If the bat is -9 or heavier alloy grade is not that important.
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Joker

Joker

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Matt B said:
Which 2000 EST Non-Cert is known to be the best?
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i personally think this one is the best, but others will have different opinions
 
EvilE

EvilE

Daddy 2011!!!!
Joker0091 said:
here is some good info on the different types of aluminum
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Yeah, I have read that before. I just wanted to know which metal you think hits better C405 or C555 (ESTK or EST5k) ??? I read alot about people saying the C405 ESTs hit better and farther then the c555 ESTs, but the c555 is a bit more durable..... WDYT?
 
glend123

glend123

Addicted to Softballfans
I like the plain old black c405 EST. i had a estle. felt nice but didn't have the same pop. same with the gold one.
 
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bam25

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could the asa stamp on the old bats mean they have been recertified? I had to send one back in the early 00's to get a stamp
 
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